There were so many to list, that I grouped them all together in a standalone website for you. It’s actually an amazon store..

You’ll find all my favorites for masculine alpha role models. They include classics like A Streetcar Named Desire, and also modern equivalents such as my favorite TV show Californication!

Other DVD’s in the collection are great for developing wit and cocky comedy. There are even movies that were written about some of the old times in the Seduction Community. Stop wasting time on video games, lame television, and lame movies.. watch some of these if you’re going to watch anything. Remember what most television is driven by?? ..MONEY!.. those advertising dollars dictate and drives MOST of the content in Television, and Movies.

So when you think you are watching something for a casual fun time.. in actuality you are receiving a lot of hidden messages. Often referred to as “Memes”, these message promote BUYING things to impress women. That would be one common meme for example, that it is necessary to spend a ton of money to impress women, and that we have to pursue them and shower them with gifts. Romantic comedies are rife with crap like that, and while it may make bookoo bucks for Hallmark (a store I like btw), for restaurant chains, for fucking Zales, Kay jewelers and Tiffany’s it does sod all for your success with women. We are socially programmed and conditioned my friend.. to SPEND!

So take some time out, and watch something that is BOTH enjoable, and that will help snap you out of the matrix (10th Anniversary Edition available on Blu-ray)..

I created this quiz a long time ago, after reading “The Art of Seduction” by Robert Greene. It’s now updated.. so give it a try.. it’s fun!

Remember to post your results in the comments below!

Update – Here’s my own results!

Yes! I took the quiz myself ladies and gents.. ok.. now it’s your turn. Unfortunately you can’t embed the results code in the comments, but you can just write which Seducer type you are, or even upload a pic if you know how to take snap a screen shot (just crop it to a smaller size please).

What Seducer Type Are You?

The Natural Childhood is the golden paradise that we are always consciously or unconsciously trying to re-create. The Natural embodies the longed-for qualities of childhood – spontaneity, sincerity, unpretentiousness. In the presence of Naturals, we feel at ease, caught up in their playful spirit, transported back to that golden age. Adopt the pose of the Natural to neutralize people's defensiveness and infect them with helpless delight.

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Here’s a good summary of the book’s concepts by a chap called Tato.

I had a conversation recently with some like minded friends about how a man can remember a split second glance that he caught of a beautiful women, perhaps that he saw over 10 years ago, and never even spoke to. Many of these strong memories are catalogued in our brains. Why? Women don’t experience this, at least not to the same extent as their male counterparts. However, women maintain memories of more specific emotional connections. Whether that be the feelings of being sexually dominated, and her corresponding sexual submission, or a chance encounter and the strangely deep comfort connection she felt with the other person.

In today’s western society these emotional experiences are what can give the informed male the edge. Of course other parameters come into play when we talk about how women experience attraction, such as; physical beauty, security, social value, etc. But right now I am fascinated by this difference in how our brains process short interactions with someone and how we then feel more attracted to that person.

From reading books on evolutionary biology it is my opinion that there are specific mechanical reasons for this difference in male and female experience. Good books on this subject include, “The Selfish Gene,” and “The Red Queen.” Let us assume for a moment that the purpose of life is to survive. What needs to survive exactly? My offspring will not have my memories, my thoughts, they will not be me. Our genes survive. In the Selfish Gene, Richard Dawkins discusses the concept that we are mere complex vessels evolved over time to allow our building blocks, our code, our real intelligence, our genes to survive. We are survival vessels.

In the Red Queen arguments are made as to why human beings have evolved to be a sexual species, rather than a species that replicates through an asexual process. Once again, this is optimum for our survival against the constant bombardment of ever evolving parasitic infection.

So why the difference between how men and women process experience into feelings of sexual desire? Why is it that women are most often the sexual choosers? The answer is rather simple. Women get pregnant, and as such they must carry the child with them for 9 months. During which time they are extremely vulnerable. Following the child’s birth the mother and child remain vulnerable for a considerable amount of time. Evolution has provided women with a different selection mechanism than men have, to counter this added vulnerability.

We have not yet evolved to accommodate for prophylactics, and sexual relationships that will not lead to child birth. Our body chemistry, and our attraction mechanisms act as if every interaction will lead to the woman being susceptible to this pending long period of vulnerability. Similarly, we have not evolved past our primitive tribal social environment, which also has implications on how men and women interact with each other in today’s environment.

Women need emotional connection; they need to feel that they have pair bonded with the man they are going to have a sexual relationship with. They are genetically hard-wired to select men whom they feel will stay around to protect them and their child. This is why when a woman thinks about the men that she has felt attraction to she will usually think in emotional terms. This is also, according to Mystery, why women experience last minute sexual resistance.

This same argument presents us with another phenomenon, that of the “gold digger”. It is my belief that all women are, to varying degrees, are attracted to social status. Men with social status, are more powerful, and are more likely to be capable of providing for them and their offspring. This isn’t necessarily a conscious decision process, and in fact can be very subtle. Developing the skills to be adept at conveying social value has been a proven tactic to influence sexual attraction, and is a large piece of Mystery’s indirect game theory.

Let us not exclude that we are talking in general terms here. There is a percentage of society, both men and women, who are more psychologically influenced in their sexual behavior. Whether, that be from childhood trauma, or simply their genetic makeup. In my experience with women it has always been due to their childhood environment.

Yes, it is also true that women, like men, are attracted to physical beauty, simply because this is a strong indicator of successful survival. Good genes in our mate will combine with our genes through sexual reproduction, and will provide a better chance of superior genetic survival abilities for our offspring, and therefore for our own genes.

Finally, back to the male half of this equation. No matter how successful, powerful, or attractive a man is, when he visually sees a beautiful woman he will always feel himself stop, and experience a need to align himself with her. The more physically beautiful, the stronger the feelings. Without the same personal survival needs of the female, the male’s sexual urges are far more dependent upon seeing physical beauty. We have just discussed how physical beauty is the best indicator of gene survivability. Therefore, when a man thinks about women he has found attractive he has a database of visual, and often momentary fragments frozen in time.

To conclude, women are hard-wired to evaluate potential mates based upon a complex set of intertwined attributes. Less than average looking men may have to work harder in certain situations, not all situations, but as you can see there are far stronger influences at play. So much so that good looking guys can often be left bewildered as to what they are doing wrong, and why they can’t seem to meet women.

I noticed a pattern recently about how I implement habits.
Here is how I implement a habit.

Usually I’ll get some idea of some over the top thing that I want to accomplish.

So maybe I weigh 120 pounds and I want to make the college football team. Or maybe I’ve had failing grades all through high school and I want to get in to the best college. Or maybe I can’t get a girlfriend and I decide to be a PUA. I have tons of these.

First I will get an idea of what I’m trying to accomplish and what will be involved.

I have the general principle that while I’m not that smart, I know that most other people aren’t that smart either. Or rather, its not that people aren’t that smart, but just that most people walk through life in a trance and generally don’t break out of their habits. They just listen to what other people tell them and aren’t willing to look at the finer details of things, so it is easy to get to the top of any field if you are willing to do that. Everyone thinks that there are all these conspiracies and super ways that people do things, but usually the top guys are just as disorganized as the average dudes on the street. It’s like kids at top colleges who pay six figures to attend school. You’d think that they’d show up to class, but they don’t show up any more than the kids in cheaper schools. Human habit is human habit. I figure that there is pretty much no limit of what level I can reach so long as I have an idea of what the top level looks like. In fact, I assume that I can surpass it before I even start.

From there, I decide what I’ll have to do to get to that point. I figure how long it will take, and the habit that I’ll have to integrate on a DAY TO DAY.

This is what I consider PROACTIVE and LOGICAL reasoning. I don’t wait until some girl dumps me to start going out when I’m emotionally compelled, and then stop going out when I feel better about myself. That is REACTIVE.

Instead, I figure to myself, “Alright, I have to go out 3-7 nights a week for around three years. Fine.”

At that point I FULLY ACCEPT that this is what I will be doing. I also am unlikely to change my plans, as I tend to think that if I can’t trust myself to stick to one area then I can’t trust myself to stick to my next area, so there if I’m going to be like that then there’s no point in even starting anything.

The big thing for me, is that I will get out there whether the conditions are ideal or not. So if I’m not dressed properly, I will still get out there. If I’m not feeling well, I’ll just go out for a bit and come home to keep the habit. I do the same thing in the gym if I have not slept properly or if I am busy or sick. If I know that I’m too tired to get a good workout I’ll still show up and push through it. If I’m too busy then I’ll just rush through it and won’t worry about eating before or after. And if I’m sick then I’ll at least show up to the gym and stretch.

I don’t think about these things. I just accept them.

Now the big thing when you start something new is that progress is going to be non-existent at first and will go up in a j-curve if you can make it through the initial pain. Most people quit because starting something is REALLY hard and usually feels directionless for a long time. The guys who make it through that initial part will eventually get to a level where progress is really fast and noticeable, and for them it will become a hobby and fun. But at first it is purely banging your head against the wall to make the most minuscule advancements. Not fun.

So in an area like pickup, if you are starting off as a total dork like I was then it is pretty much going to be zero progress for a few months. You will go out and people will be really unresponsive and hard on you. It won’t change for a long time either, because the more you’re getting rejected the more you’re feeling shitty. The only plus side is that you’re learning that you won’t die, which is actually pretty important.

When you start anything, whether sports or dance or music, it will probably be pretty embaressing and painful. You’ll be around people who have it all figured out, and their neural connections will be fine tuned from what seems like infinite repetition. You’ll see this, and it will just give you a headache. Literally, for me, I see this kind of thing and I feel nauseous because it is so intimidating.

The way I get through it is literally BLIND FAITH. I will figure out what the basic training is and do it OVER AN OVER, regardless of whether or not I get a result.

A big part of this is that I have NO OUTCOME for a very long time. My only outcome is to get my ass out of the house and to wherever I’m supposed to be. My criteria for success isn’t how well I did. It’s IF I SHOWED UP and did what I was supposed to do. My expectations of myself are very low.

I read posts on here about guys in the field for six months and frustrated that they aren’t getting results, and I really don’t relate to why they’re finding this to be unusual. When I took my first workshop I was getting laid, but I had a major social fear of clubs and my goal was to learn how to game girls in that environment. It took me a few months to get my first club makeout but I never thought anything of it. It wouldn’t have occurred to me to be one of these guys who comes on a month later and says “I still haven’t gotten laid.” I was told that it would take me six months to get “passably not lame,” and I took that at face value. There was no way after I spent all that time and money that I wasn’t going to go out and do what the guy told me to do. That would have devalidated the whole thing. To be honest, although I learned a lot on the program, I couldn’t remember shit afterwards because the whole thing was shocking like a whirlwind. The big thing I took from it was INSPIRATION and CONFIRMATION THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE. That was ALL I needed to get good.

First I learned how to open in a club environment. OK, got that. Then how to hook attention for thirty seconds. Ok, got that. Then how to tell stories. OK, got that. Then how to tease and create sexual tension. OK, got that. Then how to get a number. OK, got that. Then I realized they all flaked. OK, scrap everything, back to the drawing board. Then how to deliver it better. OK, got better reactions. Then how to slow it the fuck down to get the same reactions without being a dancing monkey. OK, got that. Each of these took weeks or months at a time.

The process went on for years, but now I have the exact result that I want.

Guys say to me “Wow, you had such dedication” and I can’t relate to that. To me, that’s like telling a kid who goes to play basketball after school for a few years that he has dedication. It wasn’t dedication. It was a routine. A habit. A hobby. I made the time for it in my life, and I never worried about how well I was doing. I assumed with blind faith that everything would take care of itself if I just kept going out and meeting people to get advice on how I was doing.

Jlaix and I were talking, and he was like “Dude, my skills are in like the stratosphere lately. It’s getting so good it’s scary.” I was like “Think about it. Remember back in the day when we were dorks, and we were like ‘all we have to do is go out for six months and we’ll be decent’? Six months seemed like forever back then, but now six months breezes by like its nothing, and every time that happens our skills are going up at the same rate that they were back in the day. The improvement keeps compiling and that’s why these results are showing up.”

If you think back to the last six months or a year, it seems like nothing. That time passes so fast. You get older and decades start to fly by.

When you implement a habit, you’re thinking about the outcome and how hard the training is. So you go through the one night and because its one of your first nights you remember every detail and it seems like a lifetime. And then you think “Six more months of THIS? Or a YEAR?!”

But that’s the wrong thinking. If you’re thinking like that there is no way you’ll get anywhere. The point is to just keep going out and not try to get results. Just go out and do your exercises and it will come naturally. Don’t think of it as “Six more months.” Think “This is what I’m doing now. My day consists of this now. This is my lifestyle.”

To me, it comes down to this: 1-Get an idea of what you want. 2-Formulate a plan of how often you need to show up to get there. 3-Accept that your new activity is a part of your life for the duration of the time you’ve decided, and never decide based on emotions if you’re going to show up or not. Just show up. 4-Don’t worry if you’re getting results, just stick to the plan with blind faith, and make your criteria for success just to show up. 5-Make it a hobby, look at the details critically without taking advice dogmatically, and take the initiative to shift the focus of your training when your intuition tells you that it might help.

Don’t focus on chasing outcome. Focus on sticking to habits. Make your criteria for success if you stuck to the habit.

Anyway, hopefully that was helpful to some people. Tyler Durden

Now when it comes to the idea that “if a girl disrespects me I’ll NEXT her”, that isn’t my frame at all. To me, you can’t NEXT a girl who you haven’t slept with.

I get a phone call from an ex-girlfriend that I’m still close with. We still hook-up, but I value her more as someone who I can talk to now. I think that may change when I stop travelling and I’m around more. For some reason, she’s an anomaly who is very self aware of her tendencies. That is, as opposed to most girls I meet, who only offer useless socially conditioned rhetoric, whenever you ask them about male/female interaction.

Over the course of the conversation, the topic of dating comes up. I ask, “What does it mean when you meet up with a guy, have a great time, maybe even kiss, but then when he calls you don’t go out with him? Like you make up excuses and don’t return his calls.”

She replies, “Well there’s this guy, Chris, who I met the other night. I really liked him. I offered him my number. He called me the other night, and asked me to meet up. I told him ‘You know what, I think I actually will. Let me call you back.’ I really wanted to meet up. For some reason I never did though. The thing is, that I can feel the emotion that I felt when I gave him my number, at the time that we’re talking on the phone. But the second we hang up, poof, it’s gone. Also, I actually have scheduling issues. It’s not like this is someone who I’m already friends with, who I’d give priority to. This is some new person that I barely know. If he happens to catch me at the right time, I’d go out with him. But I won’t take the time or go out of my way to return his calls. I don’t call guys.”

I reply, “So theoretically, you’re sufficiently attracted to this guy that under different circumstances you could have wound up sleeping with him. Or even gotten into a five year relationship, for all you know. But just because of ill luck in timing and because he actually believed that you’d call him back, now you’ll never see him again. Is this weird to you at all?”

She replies, “Nope. It makes perfect sense. I don’t care either way, because I have guys available to me at all times so it’s my last priority. That guy was cool and I thought he was cute, and maybe I’ll see him again later or something. I also just give out my number to be social most of the time. It doesn’t mean I have any intentions at all.”

I reply, “He could use that opportunity to continue the interaction to generate attraction down the line, no?”

She replies, “It’s happened before. Really I just don’t want to meet new guys. I like being social when I’m out. But if I’m attracted to a guy, I’ll probably flake on him. I’ve already slept with enough guys (she’s nineteen years old, and has been with five guys), I don’t want to sleep with anymore right now. When I was with my two friends hanging out at these guys’ house, we made each other promise not to let each other do anything because the guys were cute.”

I reply, “OK that makes sense. What if he’s really good looking? Does that make a difference? Also, do you think that when he calls it’s better for him to chat you for a while, so you can be reminded of why you gave him your number in the first place? Or should he just call and immediately try to make plans? Also, do you think it’s better to call you out on your bullshit in a funny way if you flake?”

She answers, “Looks means nothing when it comes to that stuff. I know within seconds if I could or couldn’t sleep with a guy. I knew within seconds that we’d have sex, the night that we met.”

I reply, “Are you serious? I don’t think that my looks are on a level that you’d want to sleep with me the second you saw me.”

She replies, “True. But it’s in your energy. The way you come across. I can’t explain it. As long as you’re not morbidly disfigured your looks won’t be the main thing I judge on. Girls all say they want looks, but they wind up with guys who aren’t hot all the time. There’s so many guys that I think are so hot, and I sit there waiting for them to talk and I’m all excited, and they’re like “hi” with some stupid line, and they sound retarded and act weird. It’s such a letdown, and most hot guys are like that.”

I reply, “Do you think the 25 point list I showed you has to do with that kind of stuff?”

She replies, “Yes, definitely. Also stuff that you don’t have in there, like just your voice and facial expressions.”

I reply, “OK, what about the other stuff with calling girls out on bratty behaviour? Like confronting her for flaking?”

She replies, “Well if a guy tries to argue with me, I’ll just hang up on him. He would have to do it in a totally funny way that doesn’t make me upset or annoyed.”

I reply, “Last night, I call up this flaky girl, and say ‘You’re so annoying to get a hold of! It’s so cute though, you’re so confused and disorganized. It’s like you’re my bratty little sister. I don’t even think I’m attracted to you anymore, I just want to take care of you and help you get organized like a big brother.’… Then she started giggling and said ‘No no no.. I’ll meet up with you, don’t think of me like that!’.. Do you think that was a good approach?”

She replies, “Yeah definitely. That was funny and if you did that to me, I’d be like “Oh yeah, well maybe I WILL meet up with you then!”

I reply, “OK awesome. So do you think it’s good to talk for like 15 minutes to remind her of what she gave you her number in the first place, and then go for a meet?”

She replies, “Probably longer than that actually. I’m not sure. For you maybe less time because you do this stuff. But most guys have no chance unless they’re lucky because I’m either bored or looking for something at that point in time. I guess their best bet is to try to talk to me as much as possible, so I become friends with them.”

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A few thoughts on this.

First, guys will attribute flaking to a lack of attraction. I disagree with this line of thinking. Girls go into state, and forget about it down the line. In fact, most of what occurs while a girl’s buying temperature is escalated will be forgotten by the girl. They become disassociative and cognitive dissonance kicks in.

Have you ever noticed that whatever drama happens the night you meet a girl will be forgotten if you wind up dating? It’s because nothing that happens while she’s in state counts to her. That’s also why we don’t bother worrying about whether or not a girl has a boyfriend. She becomes disassociative when she’s attracted, so it’s not relevant to the interaction.

That being the case, there are a few tendencies that guys in the scene have, that I think are wrong-headed:

1. Calling a girl on her bullshit for flaking in a way that isn’t cute or fun, or in a way that sounds angry or like you actually care. In my experience, the only girls who respond to that are the types who respond to this sort of behaviour in general, which is a certain type of girl that is not the majority.
2. Putting the girl in a position where she has to call you back or its over.
3. Refusing to follow up with girls who don’t make it easy to meet up with them again by, and thinking that you’re somehow ‘NEXTing’ them.
4. Thinking that all value is strictly conveyed in person, and that it is a bad idea to talk for a long time on the phone because it makes you look needy. Not that you *need* to call long. But rather, call as long as you feel like. Calibrate so as to hang up before she gets bored, but enjoy the interaction as long as you want. It’s just that much more comfort building, and is only taking you that much closer to the endzone.
5. Giving up if the girl stands you up, because you think she isn’t attracted.


For me, there are a few things that I’ll do when it comes to the phone. First, if a girl flakes me, I’ll tease her on it in a funny way. I never get angry or look genuinely upset about it. I never focus on reasoning with them logically.

I also don’t give up if a girl doesn’t call back. At the same time, if they say they’ll call back I’ll say I don’t get upset like I know they won’t. I’ll just say “OK cool.” and give them the chance. But then if they don’t call back when they said they would, I’ll call back a bit later and just re-initiate the conversation as if I don’t even remember that they didn’t follow up.

Now when it comes to the idea that “if a girl disrespects me I’ll NEXT her”, that isn’t my frame at all. To me, you can’t NEXT a girl who you haven’t slept with. In my view, that’s just her NEXT’ing you. It’s only a girl that I’m already with that I’ll do this to if she annoys me or crosses my boundaries.

For a girl I haven’t slept with yet though, I have a certain beliefs. She owes me nothing. It’s all a game. No relationship or connection exists between us until we’ve been together physically, because she reserves the right to walk away at any point. I have no emotional ties to the interaction, and I have no ego about it. I just do what I think will work.

I also believe that there is a fundamental problem with many of the social ideas about how often and when to call. For example, there exists an idea in society that waiting to call will create scarcity and value, as well as increase anticipation. To me this is very wrong thinking. Notice that it stems from the fact that 99% of pickups in society are SOCIAL CIRCLE pickups. So for that kind of phone number, you’d have probably had the tension building for weeks or months before the number was exchanged. Of course waiting is better – it’s been building for months. But for girls you met on a cold approach, that is not the case.

I know what world the girls live in. They live in the same world that I do. The world where you meet tons of girls (in their case its guys), and tons of them like you and tons of them validate you. When I get home from a club, I literally cannot remember the names or faces of girls I met. To be more accurate, I literally barely remember the names or faces of the last three girls I had sex with. I just got off the phone with a girl that I was with less than twelve hours ago, and PlayboyLA and I had to think for five minutes about what her name was before I returned her call. And I LIKED that girl. I remember she was a hot brunette around my height, and seemed cool. But that’s about it.

For girls, it’s the same. They can barely remember anyone they meet, because they meet so many people. To make matters even worse, they become disassociative while they’re in the club. Many of them have even had had a few drinks, but you couldn’t tell. Of course, you can do daytime pickup. But regardless, the girls still have access to many other good looking alpha guys the second they want it. Most guys don’t even realize that it is very rare that an attractive girl is not getting laid by one or more other guys. That’s even when they’re single. They’re still sleeping with their ex-boyfriends, or some player on the side. It’s not like a hot girl is NOT getting laid, anymore than you wouldn’t be if you had the instant option. So when you’re calling, they are about as motivated to meet up with you as you would be to drive across town to a good Italian restaurant, when you’re eating a good bowl of Chinese right in front of you. Sure, the Italian would be great. But you have an unlimited Chinese buffet sitting right here. Why would you be bothered?

The girls don’t get that needy feeling that the guys get. They are always validated, because they’ve been in the club at least twice a week, getting validated by all the guys complimenting them and buying them drinks.

When it comes to how I handle the phone, I don’t worry that if I call back multiple times it will make me look bad. Because I have high social value, and don’t subcommunicate any neediness, I can call as much as I want. In fact, I’ll call two or three times in a row if she’s not picking up, back to back. I’ll call back whenever I feel like it, because it’s obvious that I’m amusing myself and that I don’t really care. I could take it or leave it, and I’m just having fun. I’ll call and shoot the shit, and then hassle her until she meets up. Whatever.

I also combat excuses by adding in phone freezeouts, and following them with playful teasing and some semi-logical stuff like “Hey, come chill for a few minutes. If you’re bored, take off and we’ll catch up later.” My bro Mystery (www.mysterymethod.com) also has a field tested routine about how its weird to barrel through the first awkward half hour of meeting someone new, but everyone you know you had to go through it with, so let’s just barrel through it.

My goal is to have the girl on the phone ASAP. I don’t want them to have any time to forget that we have plans to meet up. I’ll call girls’ cellphones even as I’m leaving the club and going for afterbar food. I’ll have pulled a girl from the club to an afterhours food place, and run off to the bathroom to call all my numbers, while my wing occupies our set (I have a habit of pulling a two set with my wing for same night, and take numbers from the choice girls in larger sets). Whether I reach them or not, I’ll call them again as soon as I wake up the next afternoon, and get the ball rolling. I’m not thinking to make them wonder if I’ll call or not, because I know they could care less. Not because they aren’t attracted. Rather, because there are many attractive prospects on their plates, and regardless of my game, I’m one of many. The difference between me and them though, is that I’ll get her and they won’t, because I’ll play it properly.

If a girl stands me up, I’ll call her and make fun of her for it. I’ll hassle her to meet up. I’ll say I’m still there and she had better get her ass down there, because she’s my little sister and if she doesn’t get down here I don’t know what trouble she’ll get into if she doesn’t have me there to supervise her. I don’t care either if she wants her friends to come or not. All of this means nothing to me. I just want to see her again, because I’ll get her no matter what she throws at me. The difference between a day1 and a day2 is that she’s there to see *me*. So she has no excuse not to come back somewhere private if we’re spending time together. And from there I can escalate.

So let’s summarize. In my experience, I’ve found it best to get away from the idea that you’re trying to make the girl fall in love with you before you hook up with her. Focus on just showing you’re a cool guy who she has the potential to be attracted to, and then make it your only priority to see her again. Don’t worry about your value over the phone. You can’t wreck a sarge from over a phoneline. That makes no sense. If you’re the kind of guy who she’s attracted to, then just act congruent to that over the phone. Call her and get her accustomed and accepting that you’re in her life now. Make plans, and if she is flaky don’t worry about it, and be playfully persistent by chatting her more, not by talking non-stop about the flaking. Meet, have fun, connect, isolate, and from there its up to you..

]]> http://js-kit.com/rss/arizonapua.com/p=260 0 http://arizonapua.com/does-seduction-make-you-happy/ http://arizonapua.com/does-seduction-make-you-happy/#comments Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:21:29 +0000 Justin JDOG Marks http://www.arizonapua.com.php5-6.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/?p=125 I’m reading this article in Time magazine (“Special Mind & Body Issue“) titled, “The New Science of Happiness.” Some points stood out that I think have a direct application to seduction, and now I’m trying to figure out how best to present it.

First Principle

“There is a lack of correlation between the experiencing self and the remembering self.”

It is interesting that there is conflicting data, or a lack of correlation between what people say generally has brought them happiness, and descriptions of which specific activities bring them happiness.

The striking example being that most women will tell you that their children are their main source of happiness. However, when a study of more specific details of a woman’s activities shows that taking care of their children ranks low as a positive or happiness inducing experience.

In fact the number 1 positive activity for a woman was found to be S-E-X.

I am going to speculate here that some of this discrepancy comes from how we separate things – and remember things differently – when viewed from either a logical or emotional perspective.

This strikes me as having high significance for pick-up and seduction. You may think that this is just another way of stating something that we already know – logic kills attraction and emotion creates attraction – but I think this information serves two purposes.

Firstly, it provides a deeper understanding of why certain things work and this is always a good thing. Secondly, it conveys to me that it may also be important to have a way of logically linking her positive experiences with you. Such that when she thinks from her logical mind, or tells her friends about you in a logical conversation, that she will rate the experiences as enjoyable and highly as if she were still in the emotional experience with you.

Ross Jeffries has several great processes for doing things likes this. One such method is getting a girl to ratify her experience with you on a scale of 1 to 10. I can see other NLP future pacing and suggestive comments or patterns also working to place her logical thought of you as strongly as her in the moment emotional experience.

On a closing comment a lack of understanding of this principle may be partly responsible for getting flakes even when you ran decent game. After the experience was over there was no logical thread to maintain the strength of the experience in her mind. Or perhaps there was no mechanism for eliciting the emotional state that she experienced with you.

As you come up with your own thoughts on this remember to think also in terms of the whole seduction process and not just the meet and attract phase.

Second Principle

“What you remember of an experience is particularly influenced by the emotional high and low points and by how it ends.”

How can this help us in a pick-up or seduction?

It is important to fluctuate a woman’s mood or emotional state between both high and low points. Staying purely in a high state loses its effect as there is nothing to contrast against. I’m sure many of us already know this.

More importantly for me is the last part of the principle. What a person remembers of an experience is particularly influenced by how that experience ends. This is something that I have thought about before, but only because I noticed that I often end an interaction poorly, and I’m sure that has an impact on my flake rate. However, I have never made an effort to specifically work on the ending of an interaction.

Today for instance I had a great time talking with an HB8.5 and we made plans to see each other tomorrow… but I let the energy wind down, and kind of just walked off without a strong ending.

You could consider this ending importance to be comparable to bridge technology. I think bridge technology is actually just part of the psychology of ending most effectively. Bridging to meeting again for a specific purpose is far more effective than just planning on a phone call or leaving you’re next interaction vague. Bridging with her buy-in and your mutual excitement and enthusiasm is even better. Ending should even include such things as; the nuances of the way you say goodbye, of your ending kino, of the look you give her, of your ending interactions with any others people who are also around, of your ending body language, of the way you walk away.

]]> http://js-kit.com/rss/arizonapua.com/p=125 0 http://arizonapua.com/how-to-pump-her-buying-temperature/ http://arizonapua.com/how-to-pump-her-buying-temperature/#comments Sun, 07 Nov 2004 13:10:47 +0000 Justin JDOG Marks http://www.arizonapua.com.php5-6.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/how-to-pump-her-buying-temperature/ I’ve spoken to and listened to Tyler talk at workshops about Buying Temperature. If you have read his posts about it you know how he goes deep into social programming and talks about how women pull themselves out of state through doing things such as going back into logical conversation.

Whether or not the theory is accurate I don’t care because in practice it works. Tyler’s theory is that women are naturally sexual creatures and they instinctually want to mate with alphamales. However, through social programming they feel that if they follow these urges they are a S-L-U-T. Therefore, subconsciously, when they feel their buying temp raising, and feel themselves losing control they will do everything possible to pull themselves out of state. The theory makes sense to me, and I even discuss topics like this with women…. BUT I will state again that really what matters is how effective this is when put into practice.

There are also points of opportunity for progressing the sarge (phase shifting) as this buying temp escalates.

AMOGs know what raises a woman’s buying temp, and they know what shut’s it down. I doubt that any of them truly understand why, but they know it works. The main way that an AMOG snaps her out of state is to pull you into a logical convo in front of her…. and then proceed to run game to convey value and bring her back into state with him.

Notes on what does and does not raise Buying Temp

• Logic kills attraction. Logic controls social programming. EMOTIONS create attraction and raise Buying Temp. Emotions DO release chemicals in the brain, which are often diffictult to differentiate from attraction.
• Getting them giggling/laughing is less about raising buying temp, and more about giving them a reason to stay in set. Humour and Intrigue is less about attraction and more about holding the set and getting them to listen. I often forget this principle and become waaay too entertaining in set and lose the opportunity of the reaching the Hook-Point to escalate.
• Setting up validation processes. Baiting her to continually validate herself to you raises attraction.
• Push-Pull. This is where you convey, either directly or otherwise that you dig her, but quickly follow by conveying that you don’t.
• Cocky & Funny
• Kino, and escalating sexually
• Women’s girlfriends are very keyed in to each others buying temps, and they purposely pull them away or do certain things to snap their freind out of state. On the rare occasion you will game an HB and her friends are cool because they know that she wants to get laid.

Is Raising Buying Temp Enough On It’s Own?

With some types of women YES. With others, and I think the majority NO. This is why you need to simultaneously build other elements. These other elements include; Conveying value and social status, Building comfort and trust, conveying sexual subcommunication, have her perceive you as being the fuck of a lifetime.

Although I mentioned Vlidation in the Buying Temp notes above, I want to add something here. Mystery talks about how with club super hotties, even when you run really tight game they can lose interest. This is because they are soooo socially proofed/validated. They have super-HSE. Therefore, Mystery discovered that by adding in a jealousy sub-plot into his interactions he maintained intereset from such HB’s. This is actually triggering a very strong Validation mechanism.

I’m sure you can relate to this. Say you’re out with a pivot or just an HB friend, and she mentions this new guy that she really likes, or perhaps calls the guy in front of you. Then even if you are not attracted to her you feel somehow more attracted. This does work really well on women. Part of my new gameplan is to calibrate as to whether I need a jealousy subplot, and if so bring one in.

I’ll write more thoughts on this, but right now I’m in a coffee shop and my laptop battery is low.

]]> http://js-kit.com/rss/arizonapua.com/p=158 0 http://arizonapua.com/how-to-be-a-good-wing-wingman-rules-by-tyler-durden-pua/ http://arizonapua.com/how-to-be-a-good-wing-wingman-rules-by-tyler-durden-pua/#comments Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:04:27 +0000 Justin JDOG Marks http://www.arizonapua.com.php5-6.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/?p=217 Reposted from Tyler Durden Archives
Researchers have found that males’ testosterone levels are effected even by trivial events such as their favourite sports team winning or losing a game. Our testosterone varies depending on the level of success that we have.

Mystery calls this MOMENTUM.

Our state DRASTICALLY affects our ability to pickup girls. They pickup on it.

When I’m in a good state, I can perform at elite levels. On some *rare* occassions I’ve seen my game run even as tight as Mystery’s.

I’ll feel great, practically invincible. Cocky as ever, I feel like I can pickup any chick in the club – and I CAN.

I CAN THINK OF ALL THE *RIGHT* THINGS TO SAY. ROUTINES AND LINES ARE FLOWING OUT OF MY MOUTH EFFORTLESSLY. I AM FUNNY, SHARP, COCKY, AND ITS ALL EFFORTLESS. I AM *ON*.

Other nights, I cannot initiate a chat to save my life. SERIOUSLY, I CANNOT INITIATE A CHAT. No exaggeration. I’ll try, but I’ll be snubbed over and over.

Literally, no exaggeration. I get sub-AFC. This happens to me at least one out of every 5-6 times that I’ll go out.

——

So what causes this???

It has to do with how ALPHA you feel at the time, and the BIOFEEDBACK that you get as a result.

WHEN YOUR WING’S GAME BREAKS DOWN – PROCEDURES:

In the past, when my wingman’s game had broken down, I’d stop and start running strategy and criticism on why it has occured. Try to get to the bottom of it, etc etc.

This has NEVER been helpful, and has always just made things WORSE. It never got good results.

What I’ve figured out now, is that GIVING ADVICE is OUT-ALPHAING your wingman.

By taking your advice, your wingman is BETA-ing himself.

Doing this in PICKUP is CATEGORICALLY DIFFERENT than in tasks such as academic work, because ALPHA STATE will DICTATE RESULTS.

In academic work, for example, you can take advice from someone, and it will improve your final draft.

However, during pickup, as you take advice, you feel beta-ed, and your results become WORSE and WORSE.

Again – taking advice during ANY other activity is EFFECTIVE, because the advice is HELPFUL.

Because the MERE ACT OF TAKING ADVICE makes you feel beta, it is UNHELPFUL. Therefore you must always AVOID giving advice to your wingman IN FIELD, and SAVE it for a post-game DEBRIEF.

It is my opinion that STRATEGY SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSED WHILE IN THE MIDST OF PLAYING THE GAME, and should be saved for a post game debrief.

THE SOLUTION:

When your wingman’s game breaks down, the KEY is to AVOID talking about pickup. Realize that the SMALL AMOUNT of strategy that you can discuss will NOT change your wingman’s game enough in such a short period of time to effect substantial change in his game. The SOLUTION is to TAKE A BREATHER, and just go play pool or go outside for a bite to eat or something. JOKE AROUND. Do NOT address that his night is going poorly. AVOID it. If he asks why, just say “dude, you’re MONEY.. those chicks were defective anti-social.. do you wanna go find some NORMAL SOCIABLE CHICKS?” and then let HIM direct you back in.

LET YOUR WINGMAN TAKE CHARGE of the situation, so that he can RETURN to alpha-state.

Do NOT start offering advice, or you will BETA his state.

Do NOT tell him about all the chicks you are picking up.

Just joke around, and put him into a situation that will BOOST his state / elevate his testosterone / *whatever*.

**Get him to TAKE CHARGE in a way that is SUBTLE, so he doesn’t know that you are deliberately patronizing him.

If you can prod him to do something that makes him feel alpha, he will return to alpha-state, and again become a helpful and effective wingman.

This is important of course, for 2sets and just because in general, your wingman should be social-proofing you. An ideal pair of wingmen don’t cockfarm eachother out. They BENEFIT and SOCIAL PROOF eachother, because they are BOTH cool guys.

A tactic that helps with this is:

ACCOMPLISHMENT INTRODUCTIONS:

When my wingman comes in, I give him the BEST introduction possible.

“Guys guys! This is Twentysix! This is the COOLEST MUTHAFUCKA on the ENTIRE PLANET.. If you talk to this guy for even 30 seconds, you will clearly see that he is the coolest fucking guy”

Then update him on what you’ve been chatting the chicks about, so he can throw in his 2c.

This also sets the frame that you are more into your wing than the chicks. “Bros before hoes” mentality. Makes you seem cooler and thus more attractive to the set.

———-

Alpha heirarchy bullshit will dictate whether or not you pull the FINEST girls on any given night.

Take for example the parties that I’ll attend. On nights when I am the coolest guy in the room, I have FULL ATTENTION, and I am the ANCHOR of the conversations. (as discussed in the post below this one).

On such a night, I WILL pull the hottest girls, or at very least have all of the attention and IOIs.

However, if a cooler/more alpha guy shows up, I will NOT have good results. I’ll probably go home with nothing, or scraps.

——–

More on wingman tactics:

I’ve noticed that when I have a newbie with me, I’ll usually TAKE CHARGE. I am the man. I go into sets WITHOUT THINKING. I AM ALPHA.

However, when I have an equally skilled PUA with me, I sometimes think more about results. I think too much. Will I get snubbed? Will this work? etc etc…

With a new guy, I don’t have TIME to think about this stuff. I have to TAKE CHARGE of the situation.

I feel ALPHA, and chicks PICKUP on it. I have an excellent night.

Tyler Durden

]]> http://js-kit.com/rss/arizonapua.com/p=217 0 http://arizonapua.com/how-to-convey-value-when-meeting-and-seducing-women-during-a-pua-sarge-or-pickup-attempt/ http://arizonapua.com/how-to-convey-value-when-meeting-and-seducing-women-during-a-pua-sarge-or-pickup-attempt/#comments Sat, 28 Aug 2004 06:40:36 +0000 Justin JDOG Marks http://www.arizonapua.com.php5-6.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/?p=226 Source: Seduciton Community Archives
Author: Tyler Durden

We don’t only want entrance, but we want it free and we want to be bumped to the front of the line.

Additional material on qualification can be found at Fast Seduction.

There exists many social SUBCOMMUNICATIONS that convey social value.

• breaking rapport
• neutral to rapport
• trying to gain rapport

This goes on in social interactions all day long. Notice that the “coolest” people in the club venue are trying to break rapport with everyone. (They even wear sunglasses in a dark club, to convey that they are too cool and don’t want to make eye contact with anyone).

They roll in with their Cadillac SUV, hot chicks in tow, and don’t talk to anyone in the whole club except maybe the people similar to them. YET, if they were to approach YOU or YOUR GROUP in the club, you’d chat THEM, despite that they’d blow you off.

You’d chat them because they have high social value in that specific venue. People are DRAWN to interact with people of value, even if they’re not attracted. If Bill Gates wanted to chat, would I? Yes. Even if it was about nothing that helped me whatsoever, I’d just do it for some reason.

What Style is talking about here (which is a related to stuff I’ve discussed extensively on the Mystery Lounge), is that value re-adjustments may be necessary PRIOR to gaming.

Gaming = emotionally arousing (pumping her through states in a way that keeps her happy, aka C&F, and many other ways)

A girl can still CUT OFF who she allows to emotionally arouse her.

VALUE / ATTRACTION are DISTINCT

Value is a FILTER to see if the girl will ALLOW you to attract her.

Think to the REVERSE.

Girls are aroused EMOTIONALLY (they purchase romance novels that are descriptive).

Guys are aroused mostly VISUALLY and PHYSICALLY (they purchase porno and lapances).

A fat girl approaches me, and starts touching me. She is arousing me because she is touching my legs with her hands. She is breathing on me. I’m feeling myself getting hard.

Immediately I push her away from me, and CUT OFF what she is doing. Do I do this because I am INCAPABLE of deriving some pleasure from fucking her?

No.

Men fucked fat chicks for years, back when they were socially desirable (IOW: HAD VALUE). There’s no biological reason for me not fucking her. It’s just social.

Similarly, girls emotionally cut off men from gaming them. They won’t even acknowledge that you exist, or if they do, what you’re saying is just cute or entertaining.

Again, they are of high social value, and thus exhibit this by breaking rapport with people (both through verbal communications “why are you asking me this.. go away”, and non-verbal subcommunications like turning away from you, not matching your facial expressions or excitement levels, not being responsive to your presence, etc)

Value is established by

• OUTER APPEARANCE (genetics, grooming, and clothing subcommunications)
• -SOCIAL PROOF (both your entourage, the level to which the surrounding women are appearing to be unlocked to you (which is made obvious by things they subcommunicate as you are in the area, and girls pickup on this), and the level to which people treat you (ie: are they breaking rapport with you, being neutral to it, or trying to gain it)
• -ATTITUDE (bodylanguages and tonalities that you convey, by the words that you say and the way that you say it, and by the people who you interact with in a particular order and the way you interact with them)

So with girls, you can open with a NEUTRAL OPINION OPENER, and this is NOT ENOUGH.

Hence Style’s “Neg First” post.

This was derived from “JAP Busting I & II”

You must break rapport, perhaps several times, prior to gaming. Girls will not ALLOW themselves to become emotionally heated (aka; for their buying temperature to increase) for someone who does not pass through their filter of VALUE.

So what does that amount to in practical terms? Here’s an example:

TD: Hey guys, I need a female opinion.. Do girls think that the rockstar David Bowie is hot?
HBS: I dunno..
TD: Hey, you’re cool.. You guys are smart.. You’re from Long Island, I can tell..
HBS: Hey, we’re not from there..
TD: Yeah OK.. ummm BYE (turns back)
HBS: WTF?
TD: hahaa.. OK remain calm.. My friends little sister gets this poster of David Bowie on her wall. That is an OLD MAN.. Do you guys like OLD MEN?!?!
HBS: Why are you asking us this?
TD: (looks at wingman like they are RETARDED and mumbles)…. I’m talking. (turns back HARD, engages other set)
HBS: What a jerk blah blah..
TD: (turns around) hahhhaa, are you guys still talking about me?? haahhaa. (turns back)
HBS: No, we’re just saying blah blah
TD: (now commencing NORMAL game) You guys are so cute.. You know, I’m going to adopt you guys, you guys will be my new little sisters..

This is a VALUE ADUSTMENT. Neg first. (I’d also game a high value set differently, but that’s another story.. I’d use the same stuff, but at a different rate, direct it at different people, and also alot less of it)

You do the SAME with UG THEORY. Try to gain rapport with them first.

Value calibrations imply rapidly ascertaining what their perceived social value is, and matching it.

Girls are typically only inclined to allow themselves to be gamed with someone of simliar value.

There are exceptions however.

• TRUST
• ATTRACTION
• VALUE

These three things are SUBCOMMUNICATED at all times.

Some girls want guys with high value ONLY (NYC JAPs are like this, ChickJunkie’s 10$ Opener is good for girls like this, although an NYC JAP would probably pull out her attack whistle if you tried it on them)

Some girls value TRUST, which is subcommunicated through many things. Like when you see guys who are out with their girlfriends, and NEVER turn to face them. The girls always have to do the initiating. Some guys telegraph this, and it telegraphs trust. This is why simlar to girls who just want high value guys (like NYC Jewish American Princesses), some girls want to fuck gay guys and convert them. Queers subcommunicate feelings of trust so strong that some girls fall in love with them instantly. Weird – ask 10 girls and 2 or 3 will answer you this.

Some girls value ATTRACTION. These girls want the construction worker or badboy or the prejudicial racist stereotype of black guys.

There are also piles of PROFILES for this that you can spot, and piles of subcommunications that you can learn (think “AMOG TACTICS” post – what do the out-alpha tactics subcommunicate, beyond their surface verbal level?)

AN EXAMPLE OF VALUE

Sickboy007 and I want entrance into an exclusive club. We don’t only want entrance, but we want it free and we want to be bumped to the front of the line.

We do this all the time – I sit back and pretend to be a celeb. I say nothing, acknowledge nobody, and act aloof. Sickboy007 is my manager.

Sickboy007: Hey, we’re heading up to VIP.
BOUNCER: Are you on the guest list?
Sickboy007: You guys treat us really good here. Actually, we’re going to need to bring in our friends tommorow, and we need it Saturday as well.
BOUNCER: Are you guys celebrities? Who are you guys?
Sickboy007: (pauses)
BOUNCER: Hello?
Sickboy007: Yeah, umm we’ll definetely need that Saturday. I like you guys, you guys treat us good.
BOUNCER: OK bring in you and your friend. Talk to the manager about Saturday and Sunday, I don’t do that stuff.

TD & Sickboy007 skip the line, free cover, admitted to VIP.

Look at the subcommunications. He didn’t answer the bouncer’s quesitons directly. He barely looked the guy in the eyes. He didn’t shift his body towards him. He didn’t show any nervousness or regard for the bouncer’s physical presence. He didn’t even answer the quesitons with anything COHERENT.

The bouncer is TRAINED to pick up on this behaviour, and admit high value guests.

I’m not sure if this makes sense, but this is the behaviour we use in the pickup of high value girls.

]]> http://js-kit.com/rss/arizonapua.com/p=226 0 http://arizonapua.com/tyler-durdens-25-point-check-list-removes-low-value-traits-when-meeting-women/ http://arizonapua.com/tyler-durdens-25-point-check-list-removes-low-value-traits-when-meeting-women/#comments Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:19:28 +0000 Justin JDOG Marks http://www.arizonapua.com.php5-6.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/?p=196 Taught a few hundred guys by now just from meeting guys through PAIR and in workshops recently, and this is the shit that ups their game instantly with no tactics or anything. I see this shit ALL THE TIME. It’s the BIGGEST and most COMMON problem I see after everyone I’ve met. This is some of the main shit I focus on fixing when I’m in the field.

Almost EVERYONE I met so far screws up this shit, and it totally fucks up their sarges.

If you do this, don’t feel bad. 99% of guys I meet do it to various extents (myself included).

This is the extension of the “10 alpha qualities” post, which was when I was first figuring out what this shit meant. Back then, I was just posting observations. This post contains conclusions, having now thought about it.

ERADICATE this shit, and your game will go up B-I-G-T-I-M-E, more than ANY tactics will help you. This is part of what’s called being a “natural”. Even with nothing else, if you know this stuff you’ll do well socially, and probably get laid. This stuff is the KEY.

This stuff is only for people who play the REAL game, not the INTERNET ARMCHAIR GAME. So guys who don’t actually PLAY can skip this, because there’s not much theory in it – its directly applicable.

25 POINT CHECKLIST

1. FIDGETY MOVEMENTS AND TIGHT SHOULDERS AND TAKING YOURSELF TOO SERIOUSLY OR BEING TOO BUSINESSLIKE OR “SOPHISTICATED” (not laughing or being relaxed) = very visible subconsious (or conscious) self-doubt, overcompensating through non-relaxed state, where you’re prepared to deal with anything that could happen. Ever met someone who doesn’t blink when you talk to them?
2. TALKING TOO FAST = worried that people will stop listening to you unless you get out something that will interest them before they leave
3. LAUGHING AT YOUR OWN JOKES = covering up that you aren’t affected that others didn’t laugh, and social nervousness
4. SAYING “RIGHT” OR “YOU KNOW” AFTER STATEMENTS = seeking validation that what you said was true, or saying it because others aren’t
5. STANDING WITH LEGS NOT HALF A METER APART AT LEAST = worried that you’ll infringe on other people’s personal space
6. TALKING TOO SOFTLY OR LOUD = fear that you’ll impose yourself on people and their personal space(ie: beta).. alpha males aren’t afraid to project their voice.. YET, talking obviously too LOUD can also be seen as OVERCOMPENSATING. Just like guys who wear GENERIC clothes are trying to fit in, or guys who wear OUTRAGEOUS clothes are trying too hard to overcompensate. (hint: be careful with peacocking, find a style that doesn’t come off this way, which can be tricky but is still very doable).. Some guys don’t talk, some talk too much, etc etc.. Find appropriate balance through trial and error, which is determined through social observation,
7. MOVING YOUR HANDS AROUND WHILE YOU TALK = trying to keep the attention
8. LEANING IN or ‘PECKING’ = too eager to talk.. NEVER lean in no matter how loud the environment is MAKE HER LEAN IN or just leave but NEVER lean in or “peck” as its also called.
9. FACING BODY/FEET TOWARDS HER BEFORE SHE EARNED IT = trying to gain rapport with her too eagerly.
10. CHASING WHEN SHE WALKS AWAY = hoping she’ll listen. If a chick moves away from you, move your bodylanguage MORE away from her, so she’ll be drawn back.. don’t CHASE her… WTF?!@?!?
11. NOT WITHDRAWING (backturns, etc) WHEN SHE DOES SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULDN’T TOLERATE FROM AN UGLY GIRL OR A GUY = trying too hard to pick her up
12. ANSWERING QUESTIONS TOO QUICKLY/EARLY = too much interest in the conversation
13. TURNING YOUR HEAD (OR “SNAPPING”) WHEN YOU’RE ADDRESSED = too eager to be in convo.. so if your head is facing the other direction, and a girl says something to you, turn it SLOWLY to her, don’t snap it out of eagerness to hear her
14. GOING BACK TO A PRIOR THREAD THAT WAS INTERUPTED AT THE FIRST CHANCE/BREAK-IN-CONVO THAT YOU GET = trying too hard to impress them.. (ie: when a thread gets broken off in the convo, and you go back to it FIRST chance you get when the other topic ends, you look like you were WAITING to get back to it.. WHY are you so eager to get back on it, unless you don’t feel comfortable around the person and you need to qualify yourself to them?) WAIT until THEY say “what was that you were saying before?”, and THEN go back to it.. if it doesn’t happen, DROP IT even if it was good.
15. NOT APPEARING MORE INTO YOUR WINGMAN THEN THE CHICK = trying too hard to pick her up.. you’ve known your wingman longer than her.. why do you pay more attention to her than your wing???
16. TOO EAGER TO PAY ATTENTION – SAYING “what?” IF YOU CAN’T HEAR HER, PRIOR TO BEING IN RAPPORT = too much interest in what she’s saying.. if she mumbles, just STACK OPENERS into an entirely DIFFERENT topic, RATHER than saying “what?” This is fucking KEY KEY KEY. If you say “what?” you’ll lose her unless you’re already past attraction and into rapport. If this happens, just run a new opener and change the topic. 1- you don’t look too eager, 2- you look alpha for being disinterested in what she’s talking about which helps anyway.
17. REPLYING WITH OVERLY THOUGHT-OUT OF LOGICAL ANSWERS OR WITH OVERLY CLEAR/FORMAL PRONUNCIATION = being concerned that you won’t be accepted unless you convince really well (eg. HB: why did you ask me that… RIGHT = I’m talking. (sit and stare) WRONG = because I really need to know since I’ve been thinking about this for a while.. the FIRST one conveys that you won’t qualify yourself to her)
18. TAKING TOO MANY SENTENCES TO STATE AN IDEA THAT COULD BE STATED IN LESS SPACE = qualifying yourself. Commander Zap emails me a few months ago: “Remember TD, don’t write what you can say, don’t say what you can wink, don’t wink what you can smile” TIGHT. The shorter you can explain something in, the more PROFOUND you’ll appear. Why? You’re not qualifying yourself. (ironically I’m massively guilty of this, due to the fact that I post when I’m really tired – see #21 to spot what was wrong with this last sentence)
19. BEING BOLD INSTEAD OF CONFIDENT = that you know that you can’t pick her up, so you compensate with self-defeating actions so that the snub can be on “your terms”. Saying “I’m sexy right?” or “baby I want some of that” or even just approaching when the logistics are totally unrealistic is too eager, because a CONFIDENT person wouldn’t feel the NEED to say these kinds of things.. these things are symptoms of OVERCOMPENSATION for INSECURITIES.. which leads to……….
20. OVERCOMPENSATING INSECURITIES = fear of not being accepted. Have you ever met a janitor who the first thing he says is “money is over-rated.. I would never get caught up in the corporate world” blah blah.. if they’d have just said “I’m a janitor” and LEFT IT AT THAT we wouldn’t have even THOUGHT that anything was wrong with it.. but because they INSTANTLY start overcompensating, it comes off as overcompensating or qualifying. Same with if they BRING IT UP TOO EARLY. Like “hey, I’m Steve.. I’m a janitor and I love it”.. They’re TRYING to be cocky but it comes off as COMPENSATING. BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOURSELF. If you’re BALD, don’t say “would you love a bald man?” as a pickup line. It’s not COCKY…. its BOLD. If you’re bad looking, don’t say “don’t you think I’m sexy”. Just be comfortable with yourself, and don’t bring up the issue at all.
21. OVERCOMPENSATING FAILURE OR SHORTCOMINGS = fear of being judged.. if you do poorly on a presentation, or on a sarge in front of a wingman, or on a test, DO NOT SAY DUMB SHIT LIKE “I’m really tired”. EVEN IF you’re ACTUALLY really tired, the mere act of saying “I’m tired” comes off as QUALIFYING yourself to the person. Just don’t bring it up. If you have shitty clothes on, don’t say “I have nicer clothes at home.” Just don’t bring it up. If you meet a girl when you’re dressed bad, don’t say “I have the coolest club clothes at home” Just don’t bring it up.
22. GOING BACKWARDS IN THE PICKUP ON HER SCHEDULE = too eager to lay her.. if you’ve already GONE THROUGH the whole “let’s ballbust and shit test eachother” attraction phase of the pickup, and you’re now in RAPPORT → if she tries to ballbust you at this point then just WITHDRAW ATTENTION. DO NOT BALLBUST BACK. It seems COUNTER INTUITIVE, but once you’ve gone through that whole little attract phase, and you’re now being nice to eachother in rapport, DO NOT let her rewind the sarge by answering her ballbusting with ballbusts of your own. Just withdraw attention, to show that you’re not interested in going BACKWARDS in a sarge.
23. WAITING FOR HER IF SHE LEAVES FOR ANY REASON (LIKE SAYS “I’M GOING TO THE WASHROOM, WAIT HERE) = too eager and into the convo.. if she goes to the washroom, make sure you’re into another set by the time she gets back.
24. OVERLY REMEMBERING DETAILS ABOUT PAST CONVOS = convo means too much to you, because the person has unusual value to you (ie: a hot chick). Of course, I’m not advocating to be a total dick, but the general rule of thumb is that if you wouldn’t have remembered a FAT CHICK or a GUY saying it, then don’t remember the HB9 chick saying it. If some random dude said it and you would have remembered, then FINE. If you were in an unusually intimate convo that’s also fine. But otherwise FAKE forgetting, even if she’s a model and you remember every word. Even forget her name. If you see a random chick from your class or work, but you never talked to her, OPEN LIKE YOU DON’T KNOW HER. Don’t give into the temptation to say “we work together”. Just open like a random chick, and maybe if you get snubbed then pull out that card to save face, but only as a LAST RESORT.
25. OFFERING TOO MUCH ABOUT YOURSELF TOO EARLY = too eager to make them like you.. subcategories of this are:
• Verbally: if you say to a chick “yeah, I just got back from NYC (or any cool place that would impress)” or “yeah, I just got my Rolex fixed”, or “yeah, my stripper ex-girlfriend told me…” then she PICKS UP on the fact that you’re trying too hard to impress her.. Same with NAME DROPPING.. DON’T GIVE GIRLS YOUR RESUME TOO EARLY.. Personality conveying routines should convey personality COVERTLY, so it looks like the story is just SO COOL that its WORTH TELLING on its own accord, and it just HAPPENS to have some good things about you in it. When offering good things about yourself, don’t offer boring details. Say it with less detail, and it seems less eager. INSINUATE THAT WHICH YOU ARE TEMPTED TO ELICIDATE (holy shit, I just made up that last catchy sentence, but I’ve gotta say that I’m the shit.. right?)
• Entertaining: If you have stuff like patterns, or the CUBE, or magic, or photos, or palmreading, and you do this EARLY, it comes off as TRY-HARD. Personally I don’t use any of these things, but alot of guys do, and when they bust them out prior to the chick EARNING it, it comes off TRY-HARD. Use the stuff LATER, but not right away.
• Wanting rapport with someone who didn’t earn it: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT? I swear to god, almost EVERY PUA I meet live in field does this shit, and its SUPER LAME. Going up to a chick and saying “nice necklace” or “what’s your name” or “where did you get that?” is FUCKING DORK SUPER LAME. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT THIS STUFF FROM A R-A-N-D-O-M PERSON??? The counter argument to this is that you’re not hiding your desires blah blah blah she’s a hot girl and she should be happy that you’re approaching, but this is INTERNET RHETORIC.. and this approach is STILL hiding your desires behind the GUISE that you’re nice, so even if the rhetoric was true, it would STILL be ineffective… In the INTERNET ARMCHAIR GAME this stuff is FINE, but in the REAL FIELD GAME this shit screws you over before you’ve even started gaming. It’s fucking bullshit, and NOBODY who isn’t very goodlooking or socially proofed (or whatever high value) PRIOR to going in, can make this kind of approach work consistently on HB8.5+ chicks. TRYING FOR RAPPORT TOO EARLY IS QUALIFYING YOURSELF TO HER BECAUSE SHE HAS NOT EARNED IT.
• Talking without feedback: When you’re talking to someone, and they don’t give feedback, and you’re talking and talking, you BETA YOURSELF. It’s a DOWNWARD SPIRAL, where you start talking TOO MUCH, and you SENSE that you’re qualifying yourself, so you overcompensate EVEN MORE by TALKING and TALKING more and more.. Then you feel more and more beta’ed because you qualified yourself, and you’re left treading water, grabbing at ANYTHING that will impress the person, so you keep talking in hopes of saying that one thing that will impress them. AVOID this by not talking too much unless THEY give some feedback. IN THE FIELD you do this by PAUSING and FORCING them to fill in the awkward gaps.

Alright that’s it. I’m really tired so if the post wasn’t clear its because its 5am and I’m tired and normally it would be really good. Style is sitting over my shoulder right now and he says that this post I’m writing is really good, and he likes it. I’m a really good PUA and I date models and and hotties and almost the Dahm triplets, and my students say I’m the best instructor in the game, so really you know this material is tight. I’m in the field non stop so you’d better read this stuff, because its for real. I can even pickup in NYC and LA, the world’s toughest environments. Before when Formhandle said I wasn’t a good PUA that was because he didn’t get it cause he’s too serious. My high-5 stuff works, he’s just too uptight to grasp it. It works, I’m serious. Honestly guys, I’m so fucking cool… RIGHT? Cause I wrote the spastic ramblings and the How to PUA actually for real, so this stuff is as tight as that. I take philosophy at Queens guys. That’s the best school in Canada. If I can get good marks there, I can figure this stuff out. That’s why I get laid so much. Don’t forget that I’m using Pimp-Method. I have so many female friends, I’m so socially proofed.

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