Ta-G bootcamp

[Ta-G]

Not really bootcamp related, but I like this thread, I look at this and see how my game is evolving. Like... I used to be so jumpy and over excited, now I am a lot more low key and so on...
I want to ask you about this non-supplication thing. mASF dogma says that you shouldn't buy a girl drinks, do favors just because she is a hottie and so on... But I don't know.... Well for now I was allways refusing to do that stuff, but it often ruins the vibe. Or (if early on) she gets locked  up and shit. I tried to refuse playfully, but then they often thinks that I am not serious and still continues their stuff, tried to say it seriously, but then they would lock up. I don't know... It doesn't happen all that often, but it's still a real SP for me. Give me your suggestions.

Situations:
Girl: I'm a girl, (you should pay/please pay it for me)
You: ?/

Girl: I'm a girl, (let me go there first/please let me go there first)
You:

Girl: I'm a girl, (go there, do that/please go there, do that)
You: ??

[=SkyNet=]

i do a reframe ..
 
Situations:
Girl: I'm a girl, (you should pay/please pay it for me)
You: you know, i noticed that girls love toolling guys into buying shit for them. How about this time we switch roles around .. lets pretend you are a guy and i am a girl and you are trying to win me over by buying me a drink
 
Done now she will buy you shit wich is something i try to do every time i see an aportunity and it works 90% of the time (hell this one girl bought me The Game). Also you start role playing witch is good

Girl: I'm a girl, (let me go there first/please let me go there first)
You: ..jee ..uhm .. girls always go first how about this time i'll go first

Girl: I'm a girl, (go there, do that/please go there, do that)
You: same as above answer will work. You can also just say no now and then do it later anyways.

Remember these "do not suplicate" rules are more like guidelines its ok to buy shit for them once in a while. its ok to do what they tell you as long as they see that you are not coming from the "i am trying to win you over by buying you all this shit" frame

[Ta-G]

Cool, I'll try this out once the opportunity arises  Damn, I would even buy you a beer if you were somewhere arround. Or I would trick you into buying me a beer, by reframing that I gave you a nice advice and you are anxious to try this out

[Ta-G]

Last friday I had had a party. For one reason or another I came there kinda tensed up. Not in a really bad mood, more like I wasn't in a party mode. I was studying all day long and didn't really want to talk to people. Yet I tried to be cool, sociable guy I am. I would open new people just to fluff a bit. I have opened guys, girls - everybody.  Come to think about this, I have probably opened everyone there.

In the beggining I sucked. I just don't know what was happening, but my jokes didn't hit, I would totally lose my frame, ran out of things to say - totally out of character. I could feel that I come across weird. Like I wanted to shout - Damn, I am NOT like this, I am a cool guy, not this weirdo! And yet the story continued like this for a lot of sets.

I am not exactly sure what happened, but after few hours I was starting to feel more relaxed, more confident, more.... myself. Maybe 4 bottles of beer, few shots of vodka, brandy, cidre and some other stuff helped.

Some time after, I had a very sweet girl on my lap. I stroke her hair, put my lips near her ear and whispered that I am trying so hard not to kiss her

Good times.... She had such a sweet smile. And ass... It was impossible to get a lay, because of logistics, but I had so much fun making out with her, partying, taking photos, dancing....

Of course getting drunk + few hours of crashing and burning is a lot of fun but I wanted to ask if there is an easier way of getting out of this weird state. And does this happens to you at all? Bros, some help please

[Ta-G]

I was thinking about this lately. Those crashes and burns. Somehow my brain is adapting to the idea, that there might be a chance, that not everybody likes me. Seriously. I don't feel uncomfortable anymore if I run out of things to say or if there is no vibe, well, maybe a bit. And this affects my game in a very positive way. Like I use to have this mentality that if there is something wrong I should run. I would eject and eject and eject and then rationalize it like I should leave the set while I still have a good rapport or I need not to look needy. The fact is that at this point of my life I can't plow with canned material for hours and I am not that good at improvising so that the conversation wouldn't stall for some time. And then I would eject. I wouldn't stay long enough to make any close, any! But now I stay. I simply smile or kino a bit. If my girl feels uncomfortable because of the silence I would say it's ok, I like you, we don't need to talk all the time. Now I am living in a different town, but then I meet my old friends, they are all like - damn, your game sure is tighter And it is. Great feeling.
Oh and it's not only about silence, it's about my outlook of people, of life... I can FEEL the interaction.... I don't know... I feel more comfortable with what I am and where I am heading. No moral from me. Just using this thread as a personal journal.

[Ta-G]

Before last thursday I have never tried to pick up a girl in a club. My game is tighter... What a joke... My new low-key approach was coming of boring. Arggh... I have approached only 5 sets (I think), haven't been rejected once, haven't gained attraction once, have been amoged once. I could have ejected and approached more, but I now I try to stay in set as long as possible, to practise and to get used to the feeling that I might not have enough social value to get these girls now.

The set was on the dancefloor. 3 girls, one guy, he was definetly not a factor, but neither were we (me and my wing). Somehow the guy got upset...

Amog: Get the fuck out of the set or you are going to get killed.
Me: What?
Amog: Get the fuck out of the set or you are going to get killed.
Me: What, sorry, can't hear you, the music is too loud.
Amog: *After 5 mins. blocking me with his body* Get the fuck out of the set or you are going to get killed.
Me: *To girls*  Is he your boyfriend?
Girls: No.
Me: He just said that he will kick my ass... What a weirdo....
Girls: Smile.

Stayed in set for 10-20 more mins and then ejected. We didn't get the girls, but I am pretty sure that he won't too.  :twisted:

[Hi-Lite]

That's awesome how you AMOGed this idiot.  Way to go!  I'm curious to know what was running through your head as this tool confronted you?  Did you feel any kind of anxiety, nervousness or did you just keep cool at all times?

[Ta-G]

Thanks, it looked cool, because people couldn't know what I was feeling. At the first time I really couldn't hear him, well, a few fragments. Second time I was scared, so the answer that I can't hear him came out without actually thinking (he was taller, heavier). Then I got angry. At myself, at him. When he was blocking me with his fucking body I got really mad. I was so close to punching him. Well you know the state then you get so angry that you can hear your heartbeat in your ears and the world somehow slows down. The primal war state. If he had touched me, we both would have been banned from that club for fighting. I ignored him, but I really wanted to get him mad. So I said that line from mASF. I wanted to insult him so that he would lose control of himself and hit me. I wanted to fight. Not that cool, huh?

[Ta-G]

Ahh... The journey to the PUA... To the ultimate atractive self. So long, so adventuruos, so... fucked up

Here is my problem. I am only 18 and there aren't any girls my age at clubs on tuesday or thursday. I open set, get my girl laughing, tease her, she starts playfully hit on me and then ask my age. Usually this is the beginning of the end. What the fuck should I say? I hate to run a good set for an hour or so and then they "let's just go dance" me. I am constantly disqualifyed because of my age. What to do? It's getting on my nerves. Damn

Oh... one more thing. When should I do backturns? Sometimes they work wonders, but sometimes I lose the set because of that. Yesterday was a bit extreme, because I did a backturn, waited for about 30 secs, turned back and there was nobody there. They actually left, lol