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« on: July 12, 2004, 09:02:14 PM »
My English friend wrote this up trying to introduce me to NLP. I just started with it. But I think it is a good start since all the seduction stuff talks about frames and such.

The basics of NLP (long post, sorry!)

Here is a review of NLP, and it's main techniques. This is by no means an extensive article (far, far from it), but I wrote it in a way that would define it and cover some methods that you could go out and use, should you wish. I will put links in along the way, and recommend books at the end. If anyone tries any of the methods please post your experiences! If anyone is also knowledgeable and wants to add or correct, go right ahead.


What is NLP?

NLP is a skill-set that you learn. It teaches you how to look at success in any field by any person, looking for the patterns of success and teaching them to yourself or others. Simply put, it is the science of doing things well, bringing out your personal brilliance. There is a method to learning the patterns of masters, in any field, and learning how they get such good results. This is called modelling. The study of modelling begets many useful sub-skills, which can be applied and used however they might be needed, be it education, business, persuasion, counselling/therapy, seduction, sport etc.

NLP was invented in the 70's by 2 dudes called John Grinder and Richard Bandler, who studied 3 renowned therapists, and looked at the patterns they all used despite having different personalities and specialities. After studying this and working with Gregory Bateson - a writer on communication and psychotherapy, the resultant insights were given the name Neuro-Linguistic Programming, a name that covers the three basic principles;

Neuro - Our neurology (the thought processes and physical reactions to what we sense through sight, sound, taste, touch and smell), because is the basis of all our behaviour,
Linguistic - Language, as this is used to order our thoughts, behaviour and communications, and
Programming - because the way we order our ideas and actions effects the results we achieve.


Modelling

This is the backbone of NLP - studying the methods and behaviour of successful people, how they succeed, what they do that others don't, to create a proven method for success. Modelling is done in three stages;

1) Shadow your model while he perform the activity you are modelling. You watch what he does, and you ask him how and why he does that.
2) Take out certain parts of the model, and see if it effects results. If it does, this is an essential element. You can then refine the model to fit this information. As you do this, you will begin to understand the model more fully.
3) Designing a way to teach the model to others.

Remember that each person is unique, with their own personality, resources and physiology to apply to the tasks they perform. You can't become another person, but by modelling their beliefs, thought processes and strategies of success you can get closer to your own potential. A model is created and refined based on:

Beliefs

Arguably the most important aspect. Have you ever heard of the 'self fulfilling prophecy'? If you expect a failure, you get failure, if you believe life's a bitch and then you die you will have different experiences to those who believe life is a path to enlightenment. Your beliefs can limit you in this way, but the reverse is true, they can push you forward. Ask Lennox Lewis if he believed he could beat Tyson (bad example probably but you get the point). To determine your model's beliefs, you must elicit them though questioning. The questions would start with why or what (why do you do what you do? What does this mean to you? What would happen if you did not do that? Why is that important etc).
When the beliefs are elicited, you can apply them to yourself, pretend you believe them too, to test the beliefs. Sometimes the effect can be great.

Physiology

As you may know, your body language can reveal clues to your inner state. If you adapt a different body language, you can replicate another internal state. Many do this when chatting to girls in clubs - adopting dominant and disinterested body language. By adopting the facial expressions, voice tonality, breathing rate, and body language of other's we can replicate their inner state. The next time you talk to a stranger to ask the time or whatever, do it in the way that someone else would. Try doing it like Brad Pitt's character in Fight Club would, or how Austin Powers would (if you dare baby). Copy their walk, tonality, expressions, and put them in your body. See how your state changes. If you do this with your model, you may have intuitions about what it is like to be them, access resources that they can and experience what they do. It might have taken them years to develop those qualities.

Strategy

Strategy is how you organise thoughts and behaviour to create a positive outcome. Here is a game taken from the book 'Introducing NLP', and in many many spam emails (BTW please email this article to 6 people within 20 minutes of reading it or your toes will turn green and your eyes will pop out. Also, you will never find true love).

Read the sentence below, and count the number of F's you see:


FINISHED FILES ARE THE
RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC
STUDY COMBINED WITH THE
EXPERIENCES OF MANY YEARS.


People will see a varying number of F's. How many did you see? There are 6. What strategy did you use to read the sentence? If you didn't see 6 the first time, you probably went back over the sentence, looking at each word closely to find all 6. Try reading the sentence backwards. How many now? Most likely, you missed the F's in the 'OF', because you read the sentence in your head, pronouncing the F as a V. Notice how the results changed based on your strategy.

As indicated earlier there is much knowledge and many sub-skills and to be learned in NLP. Hopefully this will be a good basic overview of those;

An article on modelling http://www.nlpcomprehensive.com/articles/Education/Modelling.htm

Rapport

Rapport is a close relationship, trust and understanding with another person, an empathy. You use rapport skills everyday, unconsciously. Have you ever seen 2 people in deep rapport? You might have noticed they mirrored each other's body language. That is the first step - consciously and respectfully respond to their body language and gestures. You do not have to mimic them, although you would be surprised what you can get away with. Adopt their posture, and if they flick their left arm out at the elbow to emphasise a point, you can flick your left hand out at the wrist. You can match body movements with head movements. The most powerful and difficult technique is to mirror their breathing rate, using your peripheral vision. The easiest way is to match eye contact and distribution of body weight (resting on one leg or balanced between both etc).

You can also use your voice - speak in a similar tone, and copy their inflection (notice the words or points they place emphasis on). Speak at the same volume, pitch, and rhythm (useful on the phone).

To break rapport, mismatch body language. You may notice when talking to someone that you know when they want to leave. They close up, change their posture and perhaps even turn away, and on the phone you can tell by their tone that they want to end the call.

Verbally, rapport is gained by commonalities (similar interests and beliefs), appreciating what they say, and talking in the way they are thinking (explained later). You do not have to ass-kiss, and pretend you agree with whatever crap comes out of their mouth, just appreciate that they have their own views and opinions. When you raise a counter point, say 'and' instead of 'but'. See if that affects rapport.

A rapport article http://www.actnowllc.com/articles/cse-072003_01.html
The first part of this article is about rapport  http://carmine.net/articles/skills/ChangingBeliefsRap.htm

Pacing and leading
Pacing is a rapport skill you use with people everyday. It is done to get closer to their state and reality. Examples are, when you go to a high class restaurant, you wear a nice suit, when your girlfriend is sad you act sympathetic change your voice tone, and you don't say 'what up homeboy!?' to an elderly man that starts talking to you (or maybe you do). When pacing emotions, it is better not to match their state fully, but somewhere between your current state and their state (but closer to theirs). If your wife got a promotion at work, and comes home screaming, you don't start jumping around too, shouting "YEEESSSS!!!!, ALRIGHT!!" for 10 minutes because your state is not the same as her's, how can it be? You are excited and happy of course, but not in the same way she is. So when you deliberately try to gain rapport with someone, it is important to stay a few steps short of their state.

Once you have gained rapport and are pacing them, you can begin to lead them. You cannot lead without rapport. The method is pace, gain rapport, lead. To lead, you change your behaviour and state so that the other person follows. They usually will - if they don't, back up to rapport, building trust and comfort and attempt to lead again later.

As you sit in your seat reading this, looking at the contrast of the writing to the background, I don't know if you can really get excited about this article, and find yourself really wanting to read more, or if you can really feel glad that I wrote it!
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2004, 09:10:19 PM »
Representational Systems

Everyone knows the 5 senses, but not everyone (consciously) know that these 5 senses are also used internally, in our thoughts and memories. To illustrate this point, can you remember the last time you were in a supermarket or large department store? Assuming you have been in one, how did you remember the last time you were there? Maybe you remembered the weight of the basket you carried, maybe you saw a picture of an aisle, maybe you heard the sounds of the store (in your head). The really cool thing is, the same neurological pathways are used to recreate an experience inwardly as the ones used to directly experience it. This is why you hear of girls coming from dirty talk on the phone, and why you salivate when you remember eating your favourite type of chocolate (chocolate not do it for you? Have you ever thought about what it was like the last time you ate your favourite type of fruit?). The primary senses used are; Visual (V), Auditory (A) and Kinesthetic (touch) (K). Taste and smell are less important, and often included in kinesthetic. When accessing memories or using our senses internally we use all three of the primary systems, although we may not be aware of them all (at least not equally). We also may have a preferred system, which is used habitually.

In different situations, different representational systems may be preferred. You might buy a car based on the feel during the test drive, by looking at a book of all the cars statistics, or by hearing other people say it would be suitable for you. You might use other systems when deciding if you like your new shirt. Perhaps you won't like it unless you hear people say it looks good, or maybe you think it looks crap but feel great wearing it. Incidentally, if a salesman were to elicit your preferred representational system in buying whatever, this would be powerful information when persuading you to buy.

Representational systems in rapport

As our language affects our thoughts, our thoughts affect our language. If I say;

mASF is the best PUA website on the net because of all the great info and knowledgeable members.

Some people might feel this is correct. With some it will ring a bell. Others will see what I mean.

The three sentences above show how thinking differently can affect our language. It is a basic example of predicates - the 'sensory' words that give clues to how we are thinking (but not what we are thinking). The most popular literature has a varied mix of predicates, giving it appeal to more people. The next time you read a magazine article, try to figure our the writers preferred representational system. If you do that with this post, I wonder if the tone of the words will let my preferred system shine through, giving you a firm grasp of how I was thinking when I wrote it. Heh.

(Note, some words are neutral, and not sensory based)

Now, if you can elicit the preferred representational system of someone talking to you, at any given time, you can strengthen your rapport by using the appropriate predicates in your speech. When you get good at this (I am not great yet, but learning), and combine it with mirroring, you will have people's full attention I assure you. How do we determine the system being used? One way is to simply allow the conversation to flow as normal, but remain aware to the predicates they use. If a person leans heavily to one system, it will be easy to determine. If they do not, a good way to elicit it is to ask what they like most about something. For example, the beach. Some people might say they like to sit and feel relaxed, or feel a gentle breeze and the warmth of the sun(K), or maybe they like the sounds of the kids playing and having fun, and the seagulls(A), or perhaps the golden beach and rich blue of the sea or sky. There is also another way.......

Examples of predicates
 http://www.saladltd.co.uk/salad%20pages/Nlp%20tips/nlp_tip_6.htm
Example phrases http://www.wujs.org.il/activist/leadership/manual/hadracha/communication_advanced.shtml
More info on representational systems
http://www.new-oceans.co.uk/new/learn.htm

Eye accessing cues

Our physiology changes depending on how we are thinking. Our eye movement is associated with accessing different parts of the brain. Can you remember what colour the carpet in your bedroom is? Chances are, you looked up and left when doing that. Take a moment to think about what it felt like the last time your partner gave you a shoulder massage. Did you look down and right? Here is the usual eye movement pattern for right handed people (as you look at them! it is backwards on purpose!):

UP-RIGHT = constructed image UP-LEFT = remembered image
RIGHT = constructed sounds LEFT = remembered sounds
DOWN-RIGHT = kinesthetic DOWN-LEFT = inner voice
STRAIGHT FORWARD = visualisation

All you do is look for the eye position to determine how the person prefers to think, and adjust your language accordingly. Not easy, but very effective. For left handed people, the movements are often reversed, and there are many people who's eye movements are very different to the above. The answer is always with the person you are talking to - elicit the eye accessing clues by using questions similar to the carpet/massage, examples;

constructed image - What would your wife look like with green hair?
remembered image - What colour is X? How tall is X?
constructed sounds - What would it sound like if I played the harmonica in a dustbin?
remembered sounds - What does the noise your phone makes sound like?
kinesthetic - What does a feather feel like on your skin? What does X smell like?

If in doubt, you can always overtly determine the system in use ("hey, lets play a game").
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2004, 09:15:02 PM »
Submodalities

Just a quick note on submodalities. We know the three main ways of thinking, but we can go into more detail. Is the picture in your head bright, dark, in colour, over to the left or right? Is the sound loud, quiet, monotone, stereo, panned to the left or right ear? Is the feeling soft, hard, cold, and where is it coming from? Every thought has a combination of submodalities - the 'details' without exception. I will not go into this too much, but for a quick experiment, try fucking around with your submodalities. Some are vital to a particular memory, and some thoughts do not like certain submodalities.

If you were to picture a person you really love, where is the picture in your mind? How bright is it? Is it in colour? 3D or 2D?
Now, picture a person you really do not like. Try to picture this nasty person using the same submodality structure as the person you do like. Doesn't want to go there, does it?


Anchoring

Ahh the truly wonderful world of anchoring. I like to anchor people! For a while I was addicted to it. Imagine if you could install a lock into someone (including yourself), to which only you have the key. Now when you use the key, it unlocks a particular state. Can you think of a time this might be useful? This is what an anchor is. It is nothing magical, merely any stimulus (touch, sight, smell...) that triggers an emotional state or action.

NOTE - Winston hereby relieves himself of all responsibility for the results of the use of the following information, it is given for informational purposes only! (read don't blame me if you fuck it up). I suggest further reading.

Find this a little far fetched? Have you ever considered what would happen if you were to look down at your hand, the one on your mouse, and saw the yellow and black of a wasp, sat there right on it? Would you go - OK I can see an insect like shape on my hand, it is black and yellow, it could be a bee. No it's not fat enough, it must be a wasp. It might sting my hand, so I had better move it. But first I might want to trigger a small adrenaline release and get that old ticker pounding, so that I can fuel my muscles with oxygen and move my hand quicker. OK, lets do that now.
Or would you snap back instantly? This is a visual anchor my friends. If you see the lights changing ahead, you automatically slow down, if someone nods you know it means yes. Have you and your partner got 'a song'? Or do you have a particular song that reminds you of high school or a holiday?

Anchors can be good, or bad. Imagine the state the sight of a tarantula is anchored to in all arachnaphobics.

Most anchors are set by repetition, but there is another way. If the emotional state is strong, and the timing is right, you can set an anchor in one attempt. If you set the anchor again with the same emotion, you increase the effect. Imagine doubling up extreme horniness anchors on your wife or girlfriend. Guess what you would do whenever you wanted some! Your wife may do the same to you, she may have a particular look to show you are going to get some later, and you might find yourself getting horny when you see this look, even though the fun has not yet begun.

Anchors are set by any sense, so the ones you will most likely use to set anchors on yourself and others will be the primary systems - V, A and K. You can combine stimulus to make the anchor harder to set off by others (note - this is unlikely to happen in others because the anchor is also set by the state YOU were in when you set the anchor, but it can happen!).

When you choose an anchor to set on yourself or others, you want one that is discrete, and unique. For example, do not use standing naked in the double biceps pose as your confidence anchor, or you will get funny looks at that business meeting.

Pick an emotional state you would like to be able to access at will. Confidence is the usual choice, what about humour, happiness, resourcefulness, leadership, horny, calm, whatever. Now go through your past and remember a time when this state was STRONG. Really, strong, your team just won a match, you just seduced a 10 into bed, you gave a kick ass presentation, secured a 6 figure deal, held your first child for the first time, anything. If you can't think of one, choose a character from a film, and put yourself in his place, looking through his eyes and experiencing things in a scene where he was in this state. Got one? What you are going to do is recall that state, and anchor it to this - squeezing your left wrist between your thumb and index/middle fingers, and at the same time say (in your head usually, but out loud if you so wish) the name of the state. "Confidence". Remember the submodalities - Have a loud, booming, strong voice, "CONFIDENCE!". (umm, if you do the loud voice, best to say it in your head...Your business colleagues might not look favourably on you stood atop the meeting table naked in the double biceps pose shouting "CONFIDENCE!!" at the top of your voice...)

Now get comfortable, close your eyes if you wish (for the numbskulls reading, finish this paragraph first). Now run through the experience you decided on earlier. See it happening through your own eyes, in detail...See the sights, hear all the sounds, feel how you felt. Run through the 'movie', take your time and enjoy feeling the state build...Now, some people feel find it easier to actually act out the film, putting their body in the same positions...Try this and see what happens. See at what point in the movie you feel the peak of the state, and at what physical position too. Now re-experience the scene, and as the state reaches it's peak set the anchor, squeeze your wrist and say whatever word you decided. The timing is important, you must anchor as the experience reaches it's peak. Test the anchor by triggering it, if you do not feel satisfied, set the anchor again.

When you have set the anchor you can trigger this state whenever you wish.

Anchoring others

Anchoring others follows exactly the same route, only you must pace and lead the person into the state you desire, or pounce on opportunities when they happen to be in a useful state to you. For example, your best friend just won £10,000 on the lottery, and he comes round in a fantastic mood to tell you. You pace him of course, and then you say to him "Can you tell me how you felt when you found out you had won?". He accesses his memory of what he felt when he won, and then you anchor him as he runs through the experience. Maybe you squeeze his left shoulder with your right hand and say "nice!" in a certain tonality. A few weeks later he is pissed off for some reason. Eventually he asks how you are, and you say "Well, the kids and I went to the park yesterday, it was really quite, nice!" *squeeze shoulder*. All of a sudden he cheers up. That would be one very effective and useful anchor, but consider if two weeks previous to him winning the money, you had set a generosity anchor......

Another effective way to set the anchor is to bring attention to it...except not. Instead of anchoring on the word nice, you could say "You, know, *that*, is really nice", saying 'that' as you squeeze. For a second his subconscious will wonder if you are telling him that winning the cash was nice or if the shoulder squeeze was nice. Logic will prevail of course, but it was enough to set a strong anchor.

Remember that you do not have to intentionally stack the anchors (just the touch would work), but you really can't help from doing so. This is why you should get into the same state when you trigger the anchor that you were in when you planted it. This will take care of the minor details so you don't have to worry about them.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2004, 09:22:58 PM »
Effective Language

One thing I have neglected to cover is filters - neurological stimulus is filtered though our own experiences in life to create different meanings. Sex might be very traumatic for an incest rape victim. The Wham Rap might be wonderful to one guy but fucking irritating to another guy. The same is true for language, and this leads to much confusion and miscommunication. Some words/phrases are pretty much the same for us all, such as 'Pepsi', or 'guitar'. I think we would all agree what they meant. But what about the words 'love' or 'relaxed'? We could debate for hours - just look at the relationship threads on this forum. They usually generate a large number of varied responses, and people will actually get aggressive and attack other members because their filters create different meanings of the initial request for advice. This is the 'L' of NLP.

The Meta Model

This is a 'map' of language. There is a process within us that converts what we are thinking into language. There is no way in hell that we could say everything, language and the process of creating it just cannot compare to the speed of thought. In fact as I wrote this I would often find myself in the middle of a sentence, only to remember 4-5 other points I wanted to make and forget them before finishing the sentence, lost somewhere in my head. I'll remember in the shower or some other useless time. This process is necessary. If I'm stood at a bus stop and a dude asks me what number the next bus will be, he probably would not appreciate me expressing every single thought that went through my head from the time that he stopped talking to the time I started. Most would be irrelevant, some would be insulting. So we go through 3 steps:

1).Select information
2). Create a simplified version (usually distorted)
3). Generalise (the dude would probably not like to hear that if the 54 bus was late the 67 bus might come but if the 54 bus was early and already passed and the 67 was late then it might be the 33. Of course if the 33 was in an accident.....)


The Meta Modal takes us back through the 3 steps, to elicit the true meaning of what was said by getting past the deletions and generalisations. The following are the patterns of the Meta Model, and how to respond to them. The ones you use depend on the situation - none of these patterns can be considered better or worse than any other.

Unspecified Noun

Clarify by asking questions starting with 'who', 'which', 'what' etc.

The boy is scared - Which boy? What of?
The car was parked - Who's car?

Unspecified Verb

Clarify by asking 'how specifically, how exactly'.

Bobby helped me - How specifically did he help you?
Tommy travelled to L.A. - How did he travel?

Comparatives

Sometimes comparisons are being made, but with what is left out. Consider;

The BB workshop is better.

Better than what? Than the RSD one? Than cheese? Clarify these by asking "compared to what?"

The DYS series is better - Better compared to what?
Tommycould do more - More compared to whom?
Christopher is bigger - Compared to what?

Judgements

These usually involve a comparative, but do not have to. Clarify by eliciting who made the judgement, and how.

The E-book is better than cheese - Who says? On what grounds?
Closetmisogynist is obviously insane - To whom is it obvious? By what standard?

Nominalisations

Possibly the most misleading pattern (I am still trying to learn this one more fully), where a verb describing a process is turned to noun. To clarify, turn it back into a verb and elicit the necessary information.

Anger terrifies me - How does getting angry terrify you?
I'm sick of procrastination - What are you putting off?

Modal Operators of Possibility

Modal operators are words that set limits. Operators of possibility define what is possible from the speakers viewpoint. Respond to these with "What if you did?" or "What prevents that?".

memento can not refuse the cake - What would happen if he did?
I can not travel alone - What prevents you from travelling alone?

Modal Operators of Necessity

The second modal operator involves a need, and uses words like should/should not, ought/ought not. The response is similar to the above - What if you did or did not?.

I must reply to this post - What would happen if you didn't?
I should not go to the dance - What would happen if you did?

Universal Quantifiers

These are generalisations, made by attributing the instances of the few to that of the whole group. The pattern will use 'encompassing' words, like 'all', 'never', 'always'. They are not always incorrect - 'everyone will die' is a morbid example. There are two responses, 1, is to look for an exception to the implied rule, and 2, (my favourite, especially when dealing with the fairer sex) is to point out the ridiculousness of the statement.

1) NLP will never be useful - (change your voice inflection) It will NEVER be useful?
All members of this forum are intelligent and good looking - ALL members?
Everyone who smokes pot is a waster - You can't think of ONE person who smoked pot but wasn't a waster?

2) I'll never find a decent boyfriend - Yep that's so true, it's absolutely hopeless, you might as well give up and become a nun, even if you spoke to every guy on the planet you wouldn't find a decent guy!
Everyone has a better life than me - Oh for sure! Look at that beggar on the street with no money, you could NEVER have as good a life as him, look at that tattered blanket you could never get one of those!

Complex Equivalence

This has to be my favourite, and chicks use this so often. It is where you misinterpret a certain stimulus to mean something different. Respond by asking how.

That girl has a short skirt on, she is a tart - How does wearing a short skirt make her a tart?
You are not touching me, you don't love me - How does not touching you mean I don't love you?

These patterns are usually brought to life when two people using different primary representational systems interact. In the second example, the woman was in kinesthetic, whereas the partner may have been in auditory, listening intently to her, but since he wasn't touching she made the misinterpretation. Many times the guy would be perplexed at her lack of logic, and a big fight would start. Now you know why!

Presuppositions

OK I changed my mind, this is my favourite. Presuppositions are nasty little sneaky mind tricks, used every day by people worldwide. A sentence or question will pre-suppose an outcome. Weaker minds will be effected easily by this. It's useful for seduction purposes. To counter it, say "What leads you to believe X outcome will occur?"

Do you want to take your break at 10:00 or 10:30? (presup - you are going to take a break) What leads you to believe I am going to take a break?
Do you want to finish your drink before we head to my place or just go now? (presup - we are going to my place) What makes you think we're going to your place?
Are you wearing your brown suit or the grey one to the wedding? (double presup - you are going to the wedding and you will wear a suit) What leads you to believe I will wear a suit (if you are definitely going), or What leads you to believe I am going to the wedding? (if you are not planning to go)
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2004, 09:31:55 PM »
Cause and Effect

Here the problems arise when people assume that another is in control of their state or life. You can respond to the actual cause and effect (1), by saying "How exactly does X cause Y?", or "What would have to happen for this not to be the case?". Or you can respond to the belief (2), "How do you make yourself X after experiencing Y?".

1) You make me sad - How do I make you sad?
My job makes me depressed - What would have to happen for your job not to make you depressed?
2) If I leave, millions of people will die - How would your leaving cause the death of millions of people?

Mind Reading

This is familiar with most people. We can not know what another person is thinking or feeling, not for sure 100% of the time, because we are not psychic. We do make assumptions, based on many things - conscious or unconscious awareness of body language or tonality, previous experiences with other people in similar situations, the person's reputation, unconscious projection of out OWN state, or pure hallucination. There are many options, and the response is to ask them how they know. This will give useful information to you about the person's model of the world, as you will see.

My wife is pissed off - How do you know your wife is pissed off?
My wife does not find me to be a sexy beast anymore - How do you know she doesn't think you are a sexy beast? (here the answer will tell you the speakers definition of being found sexy - he might say "She wont make me dinner", "She doesn't put out", "She doesn't compliment me" etc)
I know she didn't like my performance as much as she used to - How did you know that? (here the answer will be the speakers definition of having someone like his/her performance)

As you read through the different patterns here, you might have noticed that some blurry questions and statements can crossover, and contain several patterns within them. With practice you will be able to decipher the best way to decipher the message. These patterns and responses are very useful in clarifying, gathering information, avoiding arguments, and some you can use yourself purposefully. Just by practicing them you will find yourself having better conversations, as with the rest of the methods outlined here.

More info on the Meta Modal http://home.earthlink.net/~nlper999/patresp.html

Off site links:

Introduction to NLP - good links at bottom of page
http://home.earthlink.net/~nlper999/intronlp.html

Dan Scopio's page - Advanced stuff
http://www.angelfire.com/nd/danscorpio/

A TON of free articles
http://www.nlpcomprehensive.com/articles/articles.html

A links page
http://home.earthlink.net/~jbodnar/nlpm.html
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2004, 10:35:08 PM »
Right now, I picked up Joseph O'Conner & John Seymour's Introducing NLP: Psychological Skills for Understanding and Influencing People. The ISBN on it is 1-85538-344-6 and a price on the back is $17.00. I picked it up off of Amazon in early spring, but finally got past my production course at school, so I can read it. I heard that this is a good intro book to newbies who have no background in it. It uses the meta-model which I heard some NLP books leave out.

I also have Sleight of Mouth by Dilts & The Structure of Magic: A Book About Language and Therapy by Richard Bandler. I am waiting till I finish the intro book before looking at the others.

I found the used book sellers on Amazon to be very reasonable in getting me copies cheaper and faster.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2004, 09:45:58 PM »
Cascade wrote this and emailed it to me eons ago. I sent him a link to this place and he finally showed up. So all the real props and credit for this go to him, not me.
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