Target's bootcamp!

[Target]

(Note: Below, where it says GUEST posting, it's actually mine, I don't know how it happened.)

OK, am sitting home now, it's almost a new year, I am all alone , seriously, WTF'ing life.
Here is my news: I will be doing bootcamp starting TOMORROW, oh yeah, baby! First assignment is taken from here: http://arizonapua.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1221
ASSIGNMENT #1 – Getting Rid of Approach Anxiety
A) 12-Indirect Openers (12 opinions)
B) 12-Neutral Openers (6 complimenting / 6 situational)
C) 12-Direct Openers
36 total in a week.

 I swear I will do it, or I am a 'demoted' wussy boy! Mark my word!

I will be reporting back here constantly with my reports, this is part of my life now!
I have a question about opener- C) what do I say after she says "Thank you!" when I say her this big 'compliment' as described for this opener in the above link?
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[JDOG]

Good to hear that you are doing somthing to improve this area of your life..  I've spent many New's Years alone or at least feeling alone.. We're here for you, so post back , and keep this up, as we all want you to succeed.

As for the post Direct Openr convo, this is what was stated in the other post, "starting into deep and wide rapport."

this basically means getting into rapport.  Talking about things you do, things you find interesting, fascinating, and going back and forth to build commonalities, just talking, and vibing.  Even if you run dry here you have still made great progress.

After you can consistently open you will begin to develop your other social skills, and then progress further.

Wishing you a good year ahead.

[Anonymous]

I slept in today, woke up at 7:30, cause I was up last night reading posts on this and pickupguide website.
This afternoon I went out to do approaches: 12:00pm to Kohls:
I felt kind of nervous and my ambition drained from me thru my eyes as I viewed the situation.  The day was dreary, half-empty streets, people walking briskly, occupied with their planned schemas for the day.  And here I am in the parking lot outside of Kohls with microfone in my pocket and a vague idea of what to say on my first approach.  It's January 1 by Christ's sake, do you think people are in the mood for stranger's interruption and transactional process between them and me?! Hell, no! I do it anyway.
Going to Kohls, ..to women's section...empty...I see an HB 8--an employee 17 y.o....my heart skips a bit and I compliment my heart by skipping the HB also.  I tell to myself, 'This is I am here for, I have to do it, all do it, c'mon, don't be a wussy, your word is on the line!'  I continue farther....walk toward the 'pots and pans' section, a set of HB's walking past toward the same section I am going to...I hear them say
HBs:  "...played video game on Nintendo....."
AFC:  You play video games?--as they walk by.....
no reply, maybe a smile of sorts but their back is to me now..
AFC: Excuse me, can I ask you something?  Do you cook?
HB: yes
AFC: Well, the thing I wanted to ask is this: I use an alluminum pan for frying and I heard it's not good for your health. What do you think?
HB: They're not so good, but I havne't tried anything on them , bluh, bluh, bluh...
The other HB, they're both 40'ish, left us alone as soon as we started to converse, but she was at an  earshot range.  
Some more talk...boring stuff, I tried to joke a little about aluminum upsetting the stomoch and making her run to the bathroom....she slighly laughed...probably because she felt it was supposed to be a joke even not a funny one at that.
I said thanks as soon as we covered the topic and there was nothing for me to say, besides I looked suspicios and somewhat out of place, I wasn't seriously asking the opening, I sort of asked it half sincere and half as if I WANT to talk to them.
That was 1 approach.
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Next -Target (store):
Seeing this HB I approached from behind and stopped on her oppoiste side from where I came ...(I will remeber now, NEVER to approach from behind..this is why)..
AFC: Excuse me, I want to ask you something. If you were a vegetarian, like me, and you were invited to a party where they serve a lot of meat, would you go there?
As soon as I said Excuse me! (it was quite at the store and ghostly empty, somewhere in the middle of the department, between isles near spatulas....She totally freaked out...was shocked, terrified, scared, STEPPED BACK...as if sniffing smth. suspicious....meanwhile I am trying to beam a smile at her   I haven't even uttered a WORD and she is SCARED, TOTALLY.
HB 8, ~35y.o. Slighly calming after seeing that I am controlling my distance and 'ever so nervously beaming': You could try calling a hostess and telling her you are a veggetarian.  
AFC: But what would I do there sitting and looking if every is eating?
HB: You could still go ....bluh, bluh, bluh
Here I think she looks GOOD, let's try a NEG.:
AFC: While I am talking to you I have noticed you have very charming eyes!
Making a good EC....
HB get's embarassed, looks down on the floor, slighly-slighly turns her head 10 degrees from me in the oppposite direction, and mumbles:
HB: thanks...!
AFC: But you know what...?! You have a crustie in your eye!
HB looks lost, doesn't know what to say, confused between a comliment and a NEG, and I say:
AFC: I like eye crusties!  ...and smile
HB looks totally embarasses, confused and thinking like: This is so riduculous, I better GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE, he's a CRAZY MANIAC !!
HB makes a wide circle around me, head down, having that ridiculous and crazy combination hemi-smile on her face, embarassed, takes off from that quiet place of ours, quickly picking up speed as she goes past me around the next corner into a wide isle.
I was smiling the while time, especially the worse it got the more I smiled (hahahaha) I was having fun!  It looked as if she knew what was on my mind.  AND I tried to be playful.  Again: The more she looked scared the more I smiled (HAHAHAHA) Problem?: I didn't look genuine, smiled a lot, was probably perceived as insencere.
AFC thinks: Holy shit!!  First time in my life I scared someone with my 'personality and apporach'.  WOW  A long road to go....I must be in the woods at my level  :idea:
2 Approach Over
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Here I go home to eat...streets are half-empty, No sight of HB's anywhere! Everyone is totally into themsleves, still waking up from last year, everyone's oblivious.
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A question:  Should I be playful when making an opener--smiling thru thru my question, OR make it a serious question as if it's really important to me?
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5PM.....going to the mall
HB set: HB5 and HB6 both about 17-18
AFC: question about me being a vegetarian and going to a party
HB6 got busy with customers
HB5 confesed with me: we covered the topic, I asked her about her boyfriend and what feelings she had for him first, where they started: she says in her 'tummy' , I asked her what attracted her to him and she says: He acted  funny, jokes, teased. bluh, bluh
3 Approch over...
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HB set: HB8 HB7, both are 18-19
AFC: Excise me girls, I wanted to ask your opinion as a woman. I have a girlfriend and I am looking to buy her something for her birthday which is in two weeks.  I am thinking about buying her a bra. Do you think that would be ok with her?
HB's both: It depends how long you've been together.
AFC: 3 months, and we are very close, we can talk about underwear all day long, we can cover any topic..that's how close we are.
HBs: Yeah, maybe it would be OK.
AFC: What if when I buy it for her, she might feel obligated to wear it not because she likes it but to please me, can it be a problem?
HBs: Maybe it's better if you buy her pajamas, that'll be good. They sell them over there (points)
AFC: OK......making an EC from one to the other
HB's are starting to move on...
AFC: Wait' don't you want to give me more of your woman's opinion?
HBs: walking off...smiling at each other and starting talking about...(me)
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4 Approach over
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HB Set, HB 5/HB 6 16/17 y.o
AFC: Question about the bra
HB's bluh, bluh, buy her a perfume by Victoria's Secreet "Love Spell" $10 All girls love it, she'll too
Bluh, bluh, bluh
One of them called her mom, and they had to go cause' the mall was closing....With one of them HB 5 we talked about her boyfiend and how she got feelings for him, the other stayed on the phone within an earshot fom us.
5 Approach over..........
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I go into Victoria's Secret store, see 2 HBs in the back, I go in, couting 3 second rule to 6 seconds by the time I get there...
AFC: question about the bra
HB's 5 and 7: bluh, bluh, bluh, advice, go snoop and find here size, color, lingerie is a good gift, bluh, bluh
3rd HB joins...I am starting to enjoy all this attention, one of them brought me PJ set to feel.........we talked like 5 minutes...joked some
I said thanks!
6 Approach over
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HB8-8.5 mid 30's with a child in  JC Penney
AFC: Do you know they're closing the store in 30 minutes? (actually in 1 hour)
HB Looks at her watch: NO! Really? ---Get's frustrated..
I smile
AFC: Naw, I am kidding
We both laugh
AFC: I scared you there, didn't I.
HB : Yeah, you did, smiling
AFC: Question about thr bra.
We talk for like 15 minutes, she gives nothing specific, vague advice--but she tries.
HB: bluh, bluh
AFC: If I were a girl like you, wouldn't you like to have a guy like me who would buy you some of this stuff (lingerie) :
HB: (Don't remeber what she said.....)
AFC: Are you single?
HB: No , I am married, her's my daughter....
AFC: So, going back to the days when you met your husband, what would you feel if he bought you some lingerie after 3 months...
HB: I would think it's too soon for him to do that.
Bluh, bluh,
I see she's starting to increase her distance from me, as the conversation goes too long....
I thank her and move on...
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7 Approach over
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Going to Walmart:
On the way there I see 2 HB's getting in the car
AFC: Girls, can you give me a ride to the front of the Walmart as a VIP serive    (there is like 40 yards to go)
HB's they smile, say NO, we can's smile more
I move on......
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More tomorrow, I going to bed. I'll post some tom. about my Barnes and Nobles experience---I had some kino there with one busty HB9 -she reciprocated with some kino!  I wish I knew more techniques--that would have been a good closure there.

[Anonymous]

Going to walmart:
HB set-teens:
AFC: Excuse me girls, I wanted to ask you this: Do you like eating pumpkin?
HBs (one of them): no, not really, I like apple pie
AFC: Really, I never tried a pumpkin pie and was wondering if it's good. Why is it that you don't like pumpkin pies? Are they hard?
HB: bluh, bluh, bluh,....you better buy an apple pie they're over there (gives me directions)
AFC: Could you take me there, I can hardly see, really, my vision is so bad, when I look at your face all I see is your eyes, the rest is blurry. I am afraid I will get lost.
HB: Are you serious.
AFC: Oh yeah, really.
HB: OK. (looks perplexed, her friend follows slighly behind)
AFC: I can hardly see where to go, (I extend my crossed arm/elbow to her to hook her arm around it) Take it, we'll go a la french.
HB: No, you're gonna be fine
AFC: I am afraid I will bump into a pole
HB: I will direct you, don't worry
Here I notice things start to look gloomy, I fire up my speech (qualifying myself).  They showed me the apple pie location and started parting with the look on their faces as if saying: There you go bastard, here is your place, enjoy!  :wink:  (OK, I think to myself, at least I learned something)
8 Approach over
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HB set Mom-4 and daughter-8
AFC: question about alluminum pans
After some talk, they were clueless about the pans, they said: anything works, they took me to an isle where they sell pans and pots, showed me what is best to buy,
HB-mom: This big wok is great
AFC: Yeah, it's so huge, it's defenitely for chefs, Do I look like a chef to you?
HBs: laugh
HB-8: contributes to the conversation here and there, I feel she doesn't want to be left out of it. We make some good EC: she's pretty!
We parted there
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9 Approach over
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Going to Barnes and Noble:
7:05 pm
I walk around with a book, see an HB-8, ~35, dressed with style, bust is defenitely out to show off, tight jenas, alone browsing--I could absolutely positively tell she was out for some adventure, looking for something new--but not the books, she was there to connect with people-just like me. I could feel it.
I walk up to her from her side, voice calm, quiet, confident:
AFC: Do you cook?
HB: slighly surprized, amazed, curious and with a hint of playfulness: YES
AFC: I have an allimunim pot,  and I heard it's not good for you. What do you recommend?
HB: Oh, I have these pots they're very good they're called "C...." (she doesn't remember)
AFC: Something called "Chauflon"?
HB: That's right, something like that!
We both smile, good EC
AFC: Well, I read in a jornal when do autopsy on Alzheimer's brains, they discover a lot of alluminum in there, and they think it's attributed toward the alluminum we use in cooking that we later consume.
HB: Wow, I never knew that!
AFC: even when I cook, when I take the hot cover off the pot it starts to bend right in your hands, it's so soft.
HB: It's because you bought cheap pot. (Giggles a little, me too.)
AFC: I am not cheap, but I bought them cheap.
HB: You get what you pay for, (Giggles again)
AFC: Could you give me your pans, I would like to try and see the difference before I buy
HB: (laughs) no, you can't
I go kino, by pulling her sleeve of her jacket
AFC: Oh, c'mon, I will become one of Alzheimer's patients's, then I will starve and die.
HB: (laughs some more)
HB: You can buy some good pots at ...bluh bluh
(HERE I AM PUTTING HER ON A HOOK...(BELOW))
AFC: OK, WHAT IS THE GOOD DAY TO GO THERE?
HB: tomorrow
AFC: GREAT, WHAT TIME?
HB: around three
AFC: Do you think WE would have enough time to find good pots (smiling)
HB: (got my drift, laughs, goes kino on me by touching my arm) No, I can't go there tomorrow, you have to go alone.
AFC: OK, if not tomorrow, next day, or next week
HB: No, I really can't (smiles)
All meanwhile we had a constant EC, she was giggling with every other sentence.
AFC: well, OK, It was nice to meet you (extnding my hand to touch her on the shoulder as if saying goodbye, but somehow she managed to catch my hand-my fingers, as if trying to give me a handshake or smth. She squized them slighly, but I could feel more than friendly pressure here   )
HB: Yeah, same here, nice talking to you
AFC:Well, it's your choice! if you change your mind, I will be right there, sitting (pointing)
HB: OK,
we smile and part
10 Appraoch over.
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HB set-teens: standing between the isles and quietly discussing smth, I stroll by, make a step back, look at them and say:
AFC: I know you are sharing a secret, I want to know it too, I won't devulge the information, I swear! (smiling)
HB: One of our girlfriends has an attitude problems.
AFC: Really, what kind of problem, cognitive or behavioral?
HB: giggle, bluh, bluh, bluh
Well, they were too teens, probably were glad to have some adult attention from me, so they were happy and giggled whatever I said, even though some it was total nonsense.
We parted there.
11 approach over
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I am sitting in a soft deep love seat, reading The Game, pg 88. Next to me an HB-7/mom/~34, reading about kids, divorce, behaviors.
I tug her on her sweater, after like thinking about conversing with her for 5 minutes!! Still nervous
HB: turns to me, (I look at her and say nothing) her: Hi! Quietly with a slight smile
AFC: I wanted to ask you: Do you cook?
HB: No!
AFC: really? Are you serious? (amazed)
HB: no I don't cook
AFC: question about the aluminum pants, brains os Alzheimers)
HB: I don't eat home most of the time
We talk some more, and more and more
After we joked some, and discussed her feelings for her husband wich she didn't know where in the body they are now!!! She said, some of it is 'probably' is still in her heart, but most of it went to her big toe!! (to kick it-as she demontsrated, but then said it was a joke) She was a busy mom, with no adventure, excitments, fun , but as soon I mentioned it if she wanted to have some fun her eyes sparked --I could see that, in her facial microexpresion) We talked for like 30 minutes, she said, I was crazy, later I was fun.  We engaged in feeling discussion, her kids, food, covered a lot, toward the end I talked psychilogy, heavy topic to discuss, I should avoid these in the future (But she got to know my HV) I know tell that. She's like "Wow, I never thought we would go so deep into this!" By the end, I knew half of her life , she didn;t know a thing about me, however she asked where I am from , which I lied and said
AFC: I am like you, German
HB: No
AFC: OK, I am 50% German, and .........50% German
HB: laughs
She said she needed to go, I felt I was draining topics to discuss, as I started to make pauses, she inititated the conversation where I stopped (must be a good IOI) I could tell she was interested but neede more work on her done.
So I went first:
AFC: What about the potatoe pankaces, do I get to try them?
HB: (says something vague)
AFC: And that goulash recepi, will I get it?
HB: Yeah, I have to find it home somewhere, I come here often, maybe we'll meet again
AFC: OK, once you make some potatoe pankaces hide them in the shelves somehwere here, I will be coming by and find them by the smell
HB: smiles
AFC: take it easy (I get up and walk off)
HB: (said smth short, some goodbye, don't remember)
12 Approach done.
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Whoo-hoo!
I will be going out tomorrow again and do 12 of Netral openers.


Can anyone offer me some advice on what I did wrong or right?

[Target]

Guys, something very interesting happened to me yesterday at a department store.
So, I go in still looking for a real frying pan to stir fry my cooking and stuff. Going to the 'pots and pans' section. It's around 8:00pm, the store is almost empty, it's quiet. So I see this petite woman with a full cart of big plastic boxes going toward me, 3 secs and I fire up a question.
AFC: Excuse me, would you be able to help me with smth?
HB: (she's 8, dressed nice, charming face, dangling colorful scarf around the neck) Me? There's a worker right there, she might be able to help you.
AFC: No, I need you your opinion as a woman.
HB: Oh, sure (picks up her speed to get to me, I approach her also)
AFC: Do you cook?
HB: No
AFC: Really? Are you serious?
HB: We own a restaurant.
(i am not impressed)
AFC:  I am looking for a nice frying pan to stir fry chicken, rice, pinepapples and stuff.
HB and I approach this isles of pans
We look around and she shows me a frying pan,
HB: This seems to be good
AFC: Are you sure, it'll be good for me?
HB: I wish I knew, We own a restaurant (I start to feel she's looking for validation or HV's for herself by trying to get me impressed with her owning a restaurant--I don't pay attention to that)
AFC: Where did you get this scarf?
HB: skips my question and says: This is what you should try, my husband uses it in restaurant to cook food (shows me a heavy cast-iron skillet)
AFC: Yeah, it's good for stakes and meat, but it's got grooves and it looks it's designed more for grilling than what I am looking for.
AFC: (again) Where did you get the scarf?
HB: It's actually not mine, a friend gave it to me.
AFC:  I like you scarf, I think you stole it.
HB: (smiles) No, I asked her for it and she gave it to me, it's no mine. (points to a different pan) What about this one, It's $26.70, this would be good, for chicken. Is that what you will fry in it?
AFC: Yeah, chicken, pineapples, tomatoes, stir fry.  (I tug her on that scarf while we both look at that pan) Is this an advice from a woman who doesnt' cook? (smile)
HB: (intrigued, but tries not to show it, looks defenitely enthusiastic with me in search for a pot)
I tell her a story about the brain, Alzheimer's, and how during an autopsy they find a lot of alluminum in their heads.
AFC: I am using an alluminum pan at home, LOOK at me, do you want me to have a lot of alluminum in my brain then starve and die? (smile)
HB: (laughs) I know, this is so horrible, alluminum is not good for you (starts to search again )
HB: You should come to our restaurant, you wouldn't have to cook.
AFC: I can't beleive you can't cook! How come your husband hasn't kicked you out yet? What do you eat in the morning?
HB: I can cook some scrambled eggs (laughs)
AFC: Hmmm, When I cook, it takes me half a day but I cook for a whole week. Different variety of foods.
HB: Sounds good, what time am I expected to come?
I feel she's flirting back
AFC:(loking at her from top to bottom while she 's next to me, side to side looking at a pan) I think you are not my type!
We talk some more/fluffing
AFC: Show me your hands
HB: (makes both hands palms up, as I take her both hands in mine, she suddenly pulls out her left hand leaving me only with her right one/ I think because of the ring )
AFC: I can tell you don't do the dishes!
HB: (laughs) I told you I don't cook.
HB points to some more pots with her finger and I slighly smack her on the finger.
AFC: Don't point your finger, it's not good!
She points again, I smack again .
Next I am standing at a poll, one of my arms is resting at a shoulder's height on an isles's shelf, the other is donw, vertical to my body (body posture) we talk, I tell her:
AFC: Do you kow how nice it smells when you cut up onions, garlic, and ginger, put some oil and fry that stuff-- MMMMM!! And then put Chinese sauce or smth with it.
HB: (tells me something vague i forgot)
While we are standing face to face, 4 feet apart, talking, not in the isle this time but just at the entrance of it, I look her in the eyes having this attraction for her, damn she looked hot, petit, charming, a little girly and playful as I could tell earlier by smacking her finger-she was enoying it and tried to contain her new-found fun for it.  Here, looking her straight in the eyes, I approach her, take her left and right end of the scarf to my left and right hand respectively like lovers to, disregarding the violation of the personal space,  I feel like I am in love, with my new found girlfriend, as if we'are alone and I am about to tell her how much I loved her--that's the position I put her and myself in!! I dint' care what would happen, I lost my fear, I was into it, into smth new, unexplored, uncharted, and exciting as hell!
She stood there, with me, alowing this to happen, she didn't move, and our eyes were target-locked upon each other.

I said smth to her while holding her scarf for like 15 seconds (and her by the scarf to face me close enough for me to lean in and plant a kiss) I gently threw her right end of the scarf to behind her left shoulder, and left end to her behind right shoulder finishing the style, conversation, and to show that I am done with her.

 I dint' know how to # close her, I did, however, asked her earlier if she could show me to a place where she mentioned they sold good utensils and stuff. But it was 8:00pm ,mind you!  We parted, went to the opposite direction, and our glances met again an isle later where she was looking from the end of the isle toward the beginning where I was looking if she would pass the apperture of that isles while all this time heading to an exit. I stopped and waited 5 mintes giving her enought time to smoothly disappear.   :cry:

[Target]

OK, I have been busy practicing my conversational and approach skills.
One thing I find a little bit hard is to continue a conversation at Walmart, JCPenney, and other stores.

After like 3 minutes in conversation , they start to walk away fom me, most of them do anyway.  :roll:

Another thing I learned today is to never approach a woman who is walking in a opposite direction especially with a 3 year-old child.  She continued on walking and answering my question at the same time.  :?

I talked , and talked, and talked with chicks and old women, and young girls as much as I could.

I almost #closed one who worked at the mall, but she said she didn't feel comfortable to go with me to have a cup of tea, whatever.
Another thing I noticed is that uglies from 4-6 which I met laugh at everything I say, I start out funny, but when they start to laugh I can't fucking concentrate on my lines what to say next, and I don't know why they laugh it WASN'T that funny!

I met a girl from my class, and we started talking, I know she likes me, and she got so nervous, she laughed with every sentence I said, it so annoyed me but I played along and I asked her for a cup of tea, she said I should write my phone# because she has a boyfriend answering her cell phone , I said no, so she wrote her phone #. One good thing is that she's taller than me that would be interesting to go out and boost my reputation   in a bar or somewhere.

OK, I am going out again tonight to hone my approach skills at Walmart and a bookstore. I feel like staying home, reading Mystery Method, and relaxing, but nothing is better that a real life experience. Let's do it!

[=SkyNet=]

I almost #closed one who worked at the mall, but she said she didn't feel comfortable to go with me to have a cup of tea, whatever.
Another thing I noticed is that uglies from 4-6 which I met laugh at everything I say, I start out funny, but when they start to laugh I can't fucking concentrate on my lines what to say next, and I don't know why they laugh it WASN'T that funny!  

if she said she didnt feel comfortible that means you are not far enough in the interaction to get a number. Then again dont get numbers do bridges

if they are laughing at your jokes and they are not funny thats what you want to have. That means they like you. Infact you should have that with every interaction.

[Target]

if she said she didnt feel comfortible that means you are not far enough in the interaction to get a number. Then again dont get numbers do bridges

I wasn't far in the interaction that's right, but I tried to keep it smooth and close with her, we even had kino where she answered my opener and we High-fived like 4-5 times, because I told her her Hi-5 was too weak, or too strong.  And then again, she worked there and giving her phone # and knwing that I know where she works probably is not one of the most comfortable situations with a guy you know nothing about.  Oh, whatever, I need more practice and a change in my thinking.  I will be reading Bridges; it's  David D's stuff right!?

[Target]

So I went to Walmart last night shopping for chicks. To a bookstore and Petco store. Total: 15 interactions that went beyond simple 'HI'.

I almost #closed one HB. For my proposal to go and have a cup of tea she said 'Maybe', blah, blah, 'I don't know you', and I ejected with 'Pleasure meeting you'.

I also for the first time used a false time constraint on a set at a bookstore with "I have 15 seconds ....my friends are waiting over there..) I wound up talking with them for 15 minutes; I had some kino with one by hugging her to illustrate my story, then I got a half of the chair by asking one of them to slide over so my legs can rest (3 people on 2 chairs  :lol:  ) and  spilling my tea on their table and the floor.  #close failed cause one of them was from Minnesota and had a boyfriend, and I didn't ask the other girl because I was inside my mind searching and analyzing   Multitasking is so damn hard.

I tested one line yesterday, it's meant to be used if an HB says she has a boyfriend. Then I would say, "Nice, he could bring us breakfast in bed, and he'd better make sure the orange juice is fresh or we'll club him". Well, I used it twice BUT on 2 married women!!  I had recieved negative feedback!  One of them was an HB 8.5 -HOT! I negged her once or twice, I saw her defense go down then I did a trick - '11 fingers', then told her I might give her a chance with me, she said she had a husband and I used the above 'Boyfriend buster' line!  Hahaha, you shoud have seen a look on her face! She was disgusted!!!  :roll:  I will field test this line on married women several more times and then I will test it on those who have boyfriends. Maybe I will change it to: "Nice, we could take him with us" --for a cup of tea.

I also did a kino test  by stroking one girl's hands and I had a neg ready for her after that ---" I see you don't do the dishes" but she freaked out, jumped out of the chair and ran away before I negged her!   It was at a bookstore.

Then at the same venue, I made one woman nervous, she giggled all the time but she said "You make me nervous" --she was shy, but very giggly and she had a husband lurking somewhere there too!  Lucky for me I didn't meet him!   Or he'd make me giggle!

I had a lot of fun when I warmed up with my approaches.