Newbie Mission Journal

[asmokindeal]

This is a horrible day...

It all started Yesturday (Sunday) about 10:00am....

I was laying in bed with HBDV and I just said "lets go to Vegas".

Within 60 minutes we were heading West on the I10 heading to Las Vegas. We stopped in Wickenburg and had an awsome lunch at a small little restarant. We were happy...smiling a lot and teasing each other. We held hands untill our food got there.

About an hour later were back on the road. We started talking about relationships and she asked me how long my longest relationship had been. I told her that she was the longest relationship I had had in 10 years...We were at our 3+ month mark.

She probed more about how all of my "past relationships" had gone. She started to make stuff up like...You just dated a lot of girls, fucked them and moved on huh?!...in a very playful way. We were still having fun at this point.

Then the whole topic of "Where are we going with this" came up again. I kept up my "I don't know where this is going" answer but she kept at it. We were on a 5 hour drive to Vegas and the only thing to do was to talk.

Something came over me and I decided to just lay it out. I had a voice saying "Tell her! and anouther voice saying "don't do it, don't tell her".

So I decided to take the risk and tell her...

Me...Baby, I really care about you and have a great time with you but I'm not ready for a restricted relationship. I don't want to lose you and would really miss you if I did but I would understand if you decided that you didn't want to see me anymore.

She goes silent and over the next couple of minutes I can tell she is trying to not cry. I ask her if she is ok and she says "No, I'm not. I feel like throwing up".

Then she says "So let me see if I have this strait...You want to see me and see other girls and fuck other girls but you don't want me to see other guys?"

Me...Pretty much...

I don't remember exactly what she said after that but she was really hurt and started crying and saying that she hates me and that she loves me.

She told me that I was a selfish asshole and that I was like a little kid. She told me that she felt like throwing up and that she isn't going to be involved in a fake relationship.

I don't know why but I kept driving to vegas and eventually she calmed down.

I told her that she was my first...I lost my virginity to her. This got her emotional again and we talked about this for a while and seemed to fix everything.

We get to Vegas and I take her to the Wynn. We walked around and it was going a lot better. We were laughing and holding hands again and just window shopping. We went to anouther casino and at dinner. By this time we were back to our old very happy selves.

We left there and went to the Aladan. She sat behind me while I played poker. We were having a blast. She was drinking and in a very good mood. I won $130 and we left.

We get back to the hotel room and basically have sex and go to sleep.

The next morning we get up and walk to Binions and eat breakfast. Everything is back to the way it was before our little talk on the way to Vegas. We walk out of the restaurant and I sit her down at a slot maching and put a $10.00 bill in it. She pushes it one and wins $125 on 2 quarters. We are as happy as can fucking be.

We have to leave because she has to be back by 5:00pm. We get in the car and are talking about what an increadible fun trip it had been. We are the two most happy people on the strip.

We start do drive and she tells me that she is just going to have to deal with me wanting to see other girls and that she doesn't want to lose me. I'm thinking "sweet, this is going to work out." She tells me that when she went to bed last night she was planning on just getting back to phoenix and telling me it was over. We are both in a state of happiness knowing that we are still going to be together. Everyting is awsome.

I go into a lot of detail about how I was waiting for marriage to have sex and how I just wasn't ready to settle down. I told he I feel like I missed out on my 20's.

A little while later we are driving allong and I realize that she is crying again. I ask her what is up and she isn't really wanting to talk.

She goes into her "I hate that I like you" routine and how I am selfish and that this isn't fair and that she doesn't want to share me. I do my best to controll the damage. We drive the the last hour really not talking but not in a "Im not talking to you" sort of way. We were just driving allong holding hand and kind of looking at each other every once in a while.

She tells me that she want me to listen to a song when we get back to my place.

We get there and I pop in her CD and I can't really hear the words but It says something like "did you really think that you were going to get your way" or something like that.

I hug her and she leaves without saying a word.

I don't like the way that felt and I have a really bad feeling. About 4 minutes later I hear my phone's text notification go off.

"5:13PM Baby i loved you"

This was 40 minutes ago...I haven't cried in 7 years.

I broke her heart...

[poelectrix]

This post made me think of a lot, like how really strong frames can control other peoples frames, making them attempt to rationalize the stronger frame.

It also reminds me about people not realizing what we were like pre-game.

It seems like a lot of guys cheat on their women because its a lot easier then breaking their hearts and telling them how they feel.

[Wayout]

Gesus man....you made me cry!...I love intense shit like this...makes me feel alive.!
The story is not over man...she will be back. Think about what you want out of life..and make your decisions accordingly. If you want to explore sex with other women...maybe you can both get a girl and have a 3some?  just pay attention more to your girl...
I don't know what kind of the woman would even like you and allow you to have sex with other women. I think it's one of those PUA myths..

[asmokindeal]

About 10 minutes after I posted She (HBDV) called me on the phone.

She said that She doesn't want to lose me and that we have to figure this out.  

We talked on the phone for a couple of hours while I was driving around and picking up some stuff at the mall.  I got her calmed down and we were talking normal.

She still wasn't budging on her position however.

I talked to a few different community friends and I realized a few things...

1.  I don't want to lose her right now.

2.  I really, really care about her, and this whole thing really hurt.

3.  I have an absolute blast with her every minute that we are together and she makes me happy.

4.  I haven't really felt deprived over the last 3 months with her...I haven't really felt like I was missing out by not fucking other chicks.

5.  I can still practice Opening (A1) building attraction (A2) and qualification (A3) with other girls.  I will just have to snip it at some point...in other words run practice game.

I went over to her house last night and told her how I felt about her and that I didn't want to lose her.

So for the time being I am in a "relationship frame" with HBDV.  I feel good about this and feel like I made the best decision.

Nothing has really changed.  I thought a lot about whether or not I would fuck anouther chick if I had the chance prior to this and I figured I would but the thought always made me feel uncomfortable.

I still plan on sarging and posting field reports but its going to be practice game for now... basically like I was doing before.  I wasn't really trying to close anything for the last 3 months...It just didn't feel right.

Later

Asmokindeal

[=SkyNet=]

you made the right choice, since in the end we are doing all this so we can find the right person to be with . Defently dont stop going out.

[Luxberry]

damnnnn I think I told you the second time i met you that you would fall for the first girl that walked through your appt. door.  

whens the wedding?

[asmokindeal]

Good news,

HBDV and I have talked in the past about having a threesome but the issue was kind of dropped.

I wanted to re-open this conversaton with her.  We started watching porn when we were having sex last weekend.  She really liked this and it was a lot of fun.

So last night before she came over I put together a collection of girl on girl and threesome sample clips.  She really liked this and started talking about watching me fuck other chicks and how she would like that.

She is bi-sexual and loves watching girls go at it.  She said she would enjoy having a girl with us as much as I would.  This was all done in the context of being a little drunk and having sex so I figured that the next day she would sing a different tune.

So this morning while we were eating breakfast I brought up the subject again.  She was consistant with last night and saying that she would like to do a threesome.

I told her that if we were going to have a threesome I would have to flirt with girls and pick them up.  She said she was ok with this as long as it was for us to have sex with and not me to have sex.  

She went on to say that as long as I didn't bond emotionally with the girls we could do it all the time.  She just needed the reasurance that it was only a physical thing and that I wouldn't develop emotions for other girls.  After that she was cool with it.

I had luckily read or heard something from David Shade about this.  So I was on top of this conversation and understood where she was comeing from.

The whole conversation went very smooth and now I can go about sarging other girls to fuck with her.  This whole idea is very exciting to me.  Sarging without the possibility of having sex with the girl is kind of like playing poker without real money.  

If anybody has any links to posts about qualifying girls for being bi-sexual I would appreciate it very much.

I really appreciate eveybodys support and help with all of this.  I hope that through all of this somebody has learned something.

I feel like a new man!

Later

Asmokindeal

[Wayout]

You found THE perfect woman!...Congrats!.. You can have a cake and eat it too!
One thing you can immedetly do is to go on hotornot and search for Gay women....most of them are hot and bi. Then arrange the meeting.

[gravity]

Hey Smoke!
Check out the Dual-Induction Massage from Style. It's an excellent way to segway into the threesome when you're at LMR. (or just skipping LMR all together.. I so have to try it...)

Just read your post about vegas too... The whole crying thing with "where is this going". I totally had to deal with that last summer with a LTR that ended up dying because I screwed up how I handled it. (she was BI too, but I couldn't make the 3-way happen, but that was before I met you guys and got into the game.)

My conclusion on that one is that it's my fault...not that I really screwed up my responses to the "where is this going"... it's that I spent TOO MUCH time with her - we (she) got too connected and just in the course of things she built an increasingly intense relationship. She should never feel so attached that she's crying over the relationship not being at the level she wants it to be...

I was listening to Style and his take on that is (paraphrasing) once your relationship heats up - you can't cool it down without her feelings getting hurt. You need to keep her lukewarm, spend more time apart and maintain a certian distance. Once she's attached to you at the hip it could take a crowbar to get her off.

Email me, I'll send ya some stuff.
-G

[asmokindeal]

HBDV and I just got back from San Diego.  It rained the entire time we were there.

On the way there we were talking about how funny it was that she was seduced by a virgin.  I was teasing her about it and she started talking about how she is surprised how great I am at pleasing her in bed.

I told her that I read online books about it and started telling her about the different techniques that I had read in David Shades manual.  The specific one was to orgasm on command.

I told her specifically what I tell her every time to make her cum every time I want her too.  She was agreeing that she does come every time I ask her too.

So while we were in the car I did the exact same thing but we weren't in bed and I wasn't touching her at all.  If you want to learn more about this is is in David shade's books...

Me   Do you want to cum for me baby?
her   Yes (or sometimes no, but she always means yes)
Me   Are you going to cum for me baby?
her   Yes
(I will repeat this maybe 4 or 5 times)
Me   Cum for me baby
her   Ohhhhhhh
Me   Cum for me baby, cum for me like a good little girl!
her   rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh (lots of squirming and wiggling):eek:
me   Cum for me right NOW baby, :mad: cum for me like a good little girl.
her   OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH,MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,          UUUUUUMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
me   keep cuming for me baby, keep cuming for me  baby.  Good girl, your such a good little girl.:cool:

I did this 5 times within a half hour.  She cummed for me each time.   The last time I had my hands down her pants and I felt when she did orgasm.  Right when I told her to cum for me she got all wet.  After she finished she took my hand and licked my fingers clean.  

I also got her off on the phone about an hour ago as well.  You have to train them to do this by saying that same script with them while you are having sex with them.  You have to get them to consistantly cum for you before you can start training them to cum for you on command however.

I told her about how David Shade hypnotises his girlfriend and she wants to try that too.

I had a really awsome weekend!

Asmokindeal

[asmokindeal]

Since HBDV and I are going to start sarging together for a threesome I told her about the community.  She was really cool about the whole thing.

She jumped right in and bought Mystery's new book...The Mystery Method and read the whole thing in 2 days.  Its been really fun talking with her about concepts like opening and frames.

We have also watched quite a bit of Mystery on the 2005 Cliff's List convention.  She likes the whole idea that there are guys out that help each other.

I was lucky enough to be one of the 505 (I think it was about that number) to get into the StyleLife academy.  I am really excited about this because I have felt like a ship with no rudder ever since I completed my goal of 288 sets for my newbie mission.

Mission one is to fill out a personal evaluation sheet and have two friends fill out the same sheet for you.  I already have one sheet filled out from my brother.

Style really outdid himself this time.  The missions are complete with video demonstrations and over 200 custom missions plus lots of e-books and a personal coach.

I started a new job about a month ago and it pretty much full commission...so I had to take on a second job.  So 75 hours out of every week is dedicated to work.  An additional 6 hours every week is dedicated to an improve comedy class  and a new standup comedy class.

So that leaves me with about 80 hours a week to eat, sleep and sarge!

Talk to you guys later...I've been having a blast.

[Luxberry]

jesus christ

[vellers]

Hey,

     Sounds like you got a lot going on.  I am available to provide your feedback.  Also I am in a bit of a time pinch as well.  Would like to compare some notes on a few things.

Later,

Vellers

[asmokindeal]

This Sunday was the official first time HBDV and myself gamed a girl in a club together.

We met up with a friend (natural) and his girlfriend, their friend and his girlfriend.  We show up and they have a hot HB8.5 with them (HBfirst).  She has a tight body, long brunete hair and cute tits.

We are at a typical Scottsdale club with great music and HB's everywhere.  As we sit down Natural comments that I have already met HBfirst.  I honestly don't remember meeting her but they insist that I have.

I start bantering with her and she asks why I am not drinking.  I say that I am the designated driver but HBDV is drinking.  HBfirst talks me into a drink and I tease her a little about what she is drinking.  We banter a little while and tell her she is bad for me and a trouble maker.  I get her laughing and start keno'ing her by doing the fist thing.  We work our way up to a thumb war and all is going good.

HBDV looks over at me and say's "Can we take her home with us?"  
Me       do you like her?
HBDV    (Shakes her head up and down).

HBDV talks her into sitting closer and next to me.  I run CvU shaped smiles and it get her laughing and we are having a good time.  HBfirst  stands up to go to the little girls room and asks HBDV if she wants to go with her.  They run off together.

When they return, Natural and I are engaged in a high energy conversation.  HBDV comes over to me and say's "What should I do?"  I tell her to talk to HBfirst and keno escelate.  Over the next 10 minutes she does a great job of touching and eventually they are standing against each other with HBfirst's hand in HBDV's hair...playing with it.  Her other hand is around HBDV's waist.

All is going good but Natural comes over and the two of them run off to get a drink.  HBDV comes over and say's "Damn Natural I almost had her kissing me!"

Over the next hour the same thing kept happening...HBDV would escelate to the point where they would almost kiss and Natural would pull her away and they would disappear for a while.  HBDV would re-inniate when she would return but natural would come over and take her away.  

This happened probably 5 times.  

Eventually, Naturals girlfriend got really jeolous and decided to leave the club.  This really fucked up the vibe and within 20 minutes the party was basically over.

HBfirst and Natural disappeared for good from the club and HBDV and I left to go home.

All in all I was really impressed with HBDV's performance.  I could have gotten a little bit more involved but I wanted to see what HBDV could do.

This was a ton of fun and HBDV and I talked about strategies and what worked and what we could have done differently next time.  She was really into it and was very disappointed that we didn't pull this girl home.

Later i found out that Natural put HBfirst in a cab and he took anouther cab home.  I got a call at 3:30 in the morning from Natural asking if I could put HBDV on the phone to calm down his girlfriend.  She did and it seemed to help.

Well...That concludes the first time HBDV and I gamed a girl together...WHAT A BLAST!

[vellers]

Hey man,

     Great FR.  I haven't sarged with a Bi Pivot yet but anytime in the past the threesomes were initiated by the girl.  You have a willing Bi FB and that is awesome.  I am watching to see this unfold.  I am interested to see how the first LR goes.

     The 2 other 3somes I have been involved in were during my AFC and RAFC days.  Time hasn't allowed much work lately but this is my experience.

     First 3som: Bi woman and her Bi GF walk into bar.  Vellers is plowed.  HB BI Older says "Your not the best looking but you'll do" I say "OK".  Go back to thier place play strip poker.  Kino escalate at table, Move to couch, HB BI Older says "Do my Friend first" The rest is still kinda a blurr.

      Second 3som: HB Photo says "We're going to E-Lounge to meet HB Toy" I say "OK" we meet up with HB Toy at E-Lounge and I have to be the only one of three guys with a bunch of Bi-Girls.  I was proofed by going in with "Regulars" and danced a few dances and watched HB Photo and HB Toy go at it on the dance floor.  They grab me and work me into the 3som.  We had a couple over a few months.

     I was never the initiator in either of these so Props to you man.  If anything in those two break downs helps good.  I can only say that you should have an activity/routine down for the S-Location.  That is what happened in Second 3som (not my routine but theirs) Maybe the first one did too but it seemed more random.  I think making a game out of it is cool.

     I did try one other and the game thing seemed to work.  Real Time Constraints got in the way before I could escalate too much though.  I suggest Poker or they have various games at adult stores geared towards this.  Some are real cheesy though.  (I have Dice with dares and stuff on them. That worked ok mixed with spin the bottle.)

  Feel free to call, I can go into a little more detail.

Later,

Vellers