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« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2006, 12:21:02 PM »
This weekend I made some headway but it doesn't hold the same weight as prior success of the same caliber did.

Highlights:

1.  I number closed a hired gun that I have been gaming for a little while now.  She is a 10 in my book and I have been extremely attrackted ed to her from the minute I first saw her.  I really like this chick.

2.  I spent an hour gaming a chick that I met a while back that is also a bonna fide 10.  This chick is a fucking monster hottie.  I walked by her on my way to a bar.  She is a model.  She was walking her dog and we sat on the sidewalk and talked while her little dog ran around.  I didn't run solid game however.  I didn't do enough attraction material on her and went for comfort too soon.  Didn't go for the number because I have seen her with some regularity and I know where she walks her dog.  I can re-open this next time and run solid game.

3.  Ran a great set with =SkyNet= in Tempe.  I number closed her and have talked to her on the phone breifly twice.  She was probably a 6-7 but she was interesting and I am not too picky at this stage in the game.

4.  Ran into two seperate number closes at different times and got big "bump to my junk" hugs (credit "Smooth").  Both let out little moans as they wrapped their arms all the way around my neck to hug me.

HUGE FUCKING STICKING POINT:  Setting up Day 2's.  Limitless talked to me today on the phone about this and he said that they aren't in state when I call them back and I have to re-game them to build up attraction again.  I really like this idea.  Does anybody have any suggestions for phone routines/material?

I also am working on a "Pre-Sarge Routine" to get me into frame.  I put together a bunch of picture of hot chicks that I have number closed and where they are kissing/posing with me.  Also a few pieces of music that get me pumped and a video of me flying my plane fucking money Asmokindeal style!  It is all in my PDA Phone and I go over it as I am in my car at the venue.  I am going to write a PUA-mission statement to read before I step out of my car and be super Alpha.

I am getting really good at getting into a great energy state for sarging.  I am litterally walking around tingling most of the night because I think about all of the positive things going on in my life and the highlights from the last couple of weeks and the things that chicks said to me when they were in attraction.  Just thinking about it makes me feel money right now.   :twisted:

I want to do a little more work with wings her in the near future.  The last two weeks I have been lone wolfing it and really making some headway.  I would love to find a compatible wing to work with though.

I am thinking of starting a new website:  www.wingHarmony.com   :wink:

Here would be my profile at wingharmony.com

ME:
I am into sarging a LOT.  I like to work quiet patios and bars.  I usually go to Mill Avenue and walk around all night going from bar to bar looking for money sets to open and instant date right then and there.  I don't stop and buy drinks or bullshit too much with anybody unless it is a target rich environment.  If there are no targets I usually walk right back out like I was just looking for my friends.  I like to open at least 5 sets and  upwards of 20.  It depends on wether or not I get an Instant date.  I am working on building a social-Proof network of hired guns so that when I enter a venue I can be seen hugging the hot waitresses.  To date I have number closed 6 hired guns on Mill.  I hate Old Town Scottsdale and loud environments...I will not work them right now.

YOU:
Willing to walk about 1-3 miles a night going from bar to bar on Mill or somewhere that is target rich.  You will be able to open every other set with me and abide by the wing rules at all times.  You will probably not be able to hang with me because I will want to constantly move venues if there aren't any targets or if it is too loud.  You would rather open sets than talk about opeing sets and you will refrain from critiquing me in field unless I ask for it or it is in our end of nigh debreifing.
If you are from out of town, its our first time going out together or are a newbie I will relax these rules considerably but you must be willing to open sets.  Even if you only say "Hi" to strangers.

4 THINGS I CAN'T DO WITHOUT:
1.  Frequent Venue Changes in search of Targets.
2.  Staying in ACTION and opening sets even if they are only UG's and it just to give them a high 5.
3.  Quiet patios.
4.  The freedom to FUCK EVERY FUCKING SET UP AND HAVE FUN DOING IT.

(Yea, I am kinda psychotic and OCD but I am making HUGE gains every hour that I am in the field, and having the time of my life  :D )

Later fellow cat chasers

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« Reply #91 on: September 05, 2006, 12:31:03 PM »
ASD, hit me up if you're heading out later this week.  Just getting over the stomach flu, but should be proper by then.  Should be fun to hit a few of those places and keep it shaking.  

By the way, by changing venues often, I find that you keep your AFC-self from popping up with self-negs.  The other night I was all over the place, leading the way from one place to another and feeling in charge very much helps you remain alpha.  Especially when it matters most, opening sets.

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« Reply #92 on: September 05, 2006, 03:07:05 PM »
Quote from: "AFCtoPUA"

By the way, by changing venues often, I find that you keep your AFC-self from popping up with self-negs.  The other night I was all over the place, leading the way from one place to another and feeling in charge very much helps you remain alpha.  Especially when it matters most, opening sets.


Absolutely, its easy to look alpha when you are walking.  I try keep moving constantly.  I am either opeining a set, walking through the venue or walking to anouther venue.  I try to use awsome body language and be as Alpa as I can.  I typically will only make one or two passes.  I don't walk around in circles like a hungry animal.

It's really hard to be alpha when you are sitting down drinking a beer by yourself.  I will defenantly hit you up this week.

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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2006, 08:54:54 AM »
Last night had it's ups and down but I think I made progress.

Started out with Limitless.  We went to one of my spots where I have number closed a few of the hired guns.  One of them, HBPissy was pissed off at me and I unfortunately found this fucking hilarious.  I guess it feels good for a female to feel something for me even if it is a negative emotion.  I stirred something in her and I don't know why she is so fucking upset.  LOLOLOLO :twisted:  We had a great time and laughed the entire time we were there.  

One of the other hired guns HBSweet, the one that number closed me and HBPissy's close friend waited on us.  I like this girl even more than HBPissy.  I almost lined up a day two with her after work untill she realized that HBPissy was supposed to come over after they get off of work and its a drive for her.  It was probably just a ploy.  

I am spending WWAAAAYYYYY to much time trying to re-work my hired guns.  It is almost like a pacifier.  I can go around and suck on them for a little while and take me away from my real work of opening new sets.  

Later I was with Limitless and Smooth and I ran across the hottest girl that I have number closed...HBCuteAsShit10  I got the digits on Friday and it was Wednesday last night (it had been 5 days).  This girl is a fucking princess.  We came across her at a club.  I was in set and these girls kept looking at me.  After my set was over I walked over and realized who it was.  She had gone to Vegas for the first time this weekend and I opend up the whole set of 5 and just took the mother fucker over.  I told this funny story about Vegas and spent about 5 minutes being the center of attention.  They were giggling and having a good time.  I ejected while the energy level was high and she was telling them how cool I was at Magic.  I introduced myself to everybody.  

About halfway in Limitless came in and social proofed me.  I am hopeing that all of that was a DHV and can get me over the hump.  I don't have a real emtional connection to this chick however I think she is the cutes thing on planet earth right now.  

I eventually ran into Sunslayer in set and I social proofed him.  We want around for a little while but didn't get much accomplished because we stopped for a snack and you guessed it our waitress was a girl I had number closed in the past.  I am such a sucker! :lol:   In case you were wondering this was no coincidence.  

I need to get back to basics and start re-opeing sets in mass.  That is where I start to make my largest gains in my game.  When I am opening sets awsome things happen.  When I stop to try and work my pipeline I get frustrated and desperate.

If I can offer anybody any fucking advice at this point in my PU career.  "Stop analyzing your results and go open some fucking sets already" :D

The absolute funnest time I have had to date was when SunSlayer and I used to go out and just open lots and lots of sets.  Up to 15 a night.  We decided to stop analyzing the results and to just stay in action.  We would laugh like a couple of little girls at a backyard tea party.

Vellers told me something valuable last night too.  "Your possibly trying too hard.  Try to find pleasure in all things"

So the list of PUA that I hung with last night:
Vellers
Smooth
Limitless
SunSlayer

It was a fun night.

The list of HB/Hired Guns I looked for/regamed last night:
HBSmart
HgPissy
HgSweet
HgCoconut
HgSurferGirl
Hg/HBSincere
HgKitty
HBMonsterFuckingHot

Holly Shit I have OctoItis!!!!!!!!!   (8 HB's)

I am a sick man and I need treatment!  LMAO  I guess admitting that you have a problem is the first step.

Asmokindeal
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« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2006, 09:04:09 AM »
Goin out again tonight bro?  Let me know around what time and I'll toss my name on that list :)

After the workout and shower, I probably get down to Mill around 9-9:30.  I imagine that'll work?

I gotta see this machine in action!

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« Reply #95 on: September 07, 2006, 10:55:11 AM »
Hey man,

     Good seeing you last night.  I'm going dancing tonight at Mythos.  9pm $7 lots of HB waiting to get gamed.

     Hope to see you there,

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« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2006, 02:21:41 PM »
I've decided to use the Anthony Robbins Personal Power 30 Day Program in conjuction with PU.  The program has 30 dvd in which every day you listen to the daily cd and he gives you an assignment.  

I am excited about this because it is a general program and it will force me to think critically about my game from a different perspective.

I follow directions and instruction excellently and I think this is going to make a huge difference.  I could just follow the StyleLIfe Challenge but I am psyched about doing this and want to see where it takes me.

Assignment number 1

Quote from: "Anthony Robbins"
Think of two actions that you need to do but you have been putting off that would immediately improve the quality of your life.  Take action immediately toward the progress of the action.

What if I fail?  Then fail big! Go for it!


1.  No more lone wolf  re-gaming of Hired Guns.  In other words I can’t go into Hooters where I have 4 number closes to try and get it to the next level without a pivot or a wing.  If we do go in we have to set a time constraint and stick to it.  
2.  I MUST open 12 sets every night I enter the field.  The only exception is if I get an Instant Date.

I am starting this tonight and will be opening 12 sets.  I would also really like to get good at bouncing girls over to where I am socially proofed via hired guns that I have number closed.  This is like killing two birds with one stone.   :twisted:

I feel re-committed :D
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Re: Anthony Robbins Personal Power 30 Day Program
« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2006, 07:48:29 AM »
Quote from: "asmokindeal"

Assignment number 1

Quote from: "Anthony Robbins"
Think of two actions that you need to do but you have been putting off that would immediately improve the quality of your life.  Take action immediately toward the progress of the action.

What if I fail?  Then fail big! Go for it!


1.  No more lone wolf  re-gaming of Hired Guns.  In other words I can’t go into Hooters where I have 4 number closes to try and get it to the next level without a pivot or a wing.  If we do go in we have to set a time constraint and stick to it.  
2.  I MUST open 12 sets every night I enter the field.  The only exception is if I get an Instant Date.



Last night was very interesting.  I started out will Vellers at a Medeteranian restaurant where they have a salsa dancing lesson every Thursday.  This was the most fun I have had all week.  There are a lot more women than men and they rotate every minute so there is a lot of keno and light conversation.  Its like 20 mini dates.  It fucking rocked.  

Headed down to Mill Avenue to meet up with some guys from the community.  We ended up at a bar and as we walked through I made my way back to the back porch area where it is quiet and there are frequently workable sets.

I spot a 3 set with a dolled up target.  I didn't get a close look at her face but she appeared to be about a 8.5-9.5.  Her two obstacles were not bad looking either.  I opened up the set and ran my opener.  I get about halfway through my first opener when I see my wing man work his way around the oposite side of the table.  I expected him to social proof me or introduce himself to the group but that didn't happen.  Is what did happen is he grabbed the nearest chair and saddled up right next to my target.

He leaned over and started talking to her like I didn't even exist.  I was so shocked that I cut my thread mid sentence and walked back over to a new community member and told him "Holy shit, he just moved in on my target"

I re-opened the obstacle that was to my right she was a solid 7.5 and I figured I would work her since she was still in state from the opener.  I worked her for about 8 minutes and all of the sudden the target and the other obstacle start getting ready to leave.  The entire set leaves and we all get up.

Me:  "Dude you just stole my target."  Delivered with a smile, I really didn't care.
Wing:  Dude, whatever.  like you had a chance with her.
Me:  Man, you can't do that.  I opened that set I had first choice on the target.
Wing:  How am I supposed to know which one is your target?  I'm not going to stand there and watch you spin your wheels.  You didn't have a chance with her.
Me:  That's not the point.  I was in set for less than 30 seconds.  You need to read the wing rules.  You aren't supposed to enter the set untill I let you in.  Dude that wasn't cool.  That was a clear violation of the wingman rules.
Wing:  You think your going to fuck that chick tonight.  I'll bet you $1000.  (extends hand)  I'm here to get laid dude.  Your way too uptight.  I'm not going to sarge with you anymore.
Me:  YOUR NOT GOING TO SARGE WITH ME ANYMORE?  You moved in on my target.  (I'm in total disbelief)  Dude you broke every rule in the book.  Your going to have a hard time getting allong with guys in the community if you keep doing that.
Wing:  FUCK YOU, AND FUCK THE RULES.  I don't follow rules.  I have my own rules and they get me laid.  Your never going to get laid the way you do it.
Me:  Wow, dude that wasn't cool.  I'm out of here (turning and leaving out of the back exit).

I walked down the strip and opened 3 sets and locked in to the last one and talked to an HB6.5 & HB8 for about 15 minutes.  Wasn't getting anywhere and target droped the BF bomb on me very politely so I ejected.  

Walked around for 5 minutes and found SunSlayer.  We went and got some food and worked 2 cute waitresses.  Left and I was looking for my last couple of set.  It was getting really late.  Opened up a two set and worked it for about 12 minutes.  Got tons of IOI's from the obstacle and really none from the Target so I ended up setting up a day 2 for saturday morning and a phone number.

Later

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« Reply #98 on: September 08, 2006, 08:28:15 AM »
Yeah it was an interesting night to be sure.  I felt like a wet sock because I had a ton on my mind.  Seeing MM in action, you really have to be clear-minded and clear your head of all things non-related.  I'll definitely have to work on finishing up my business shit first and then start going out.  Once a week or once every other week with a half-assed attitude really forces you to cockblock yourself lol.

Watching a natural work is a different beast.  It's like jumping into A2/3 immediately and then just trying to show that you're not a complete asshole and you're pretty much in.  Unfortunately it doesn't always mesh with the method because as a natural it's not really as calculated as it has to be with a non-natural.

To your credit, it was starting to rain and your set was getting wet...

I'm gonna also get into the country swing and salsa lessons they have down the street from me, it seems like a great way to pick up a skill and get some interaction with the ladies.  Good meetin ya there :)

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« Reply #99 on: September 08, 2006, 01:11:25 PM »
who was it that moved in on the target?
I do battle with the Angel of Death for fourty hours a week. And what do you do for a living?

Feel safe at night, sleep with a nurse.

Air goes in and out, blood goes round and round. Any variation of this is a bad thing...

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« Reply #100 on: September 08, 2006, 02:55:14 PM »
Smoke your right I suck as a wing man and have a lot to learn,

However, I moved in on your set for a good reason.  Both your target and her friend were not listening or looking at you, I sat next to them because, why you were doing your bit they were facing eachother and talking about some serious subject, I can't remember what but they were having a heated discussion.  I asked them what they were talking about.  

Dude, you weren't even in set they did not here a word you were saying, I was trying to help out, clearly it didn't work.  it was starting to rain, and i knew you didn't have much time to hook.  

first dude i sat down because they were completly ignoring you, my objective was to atleast get them to listen.  my second was to piss off the target beacuse when i sat down she ioi d me, so i negged your target fucking bad, this never works for me, and it didn't this time. She  chalked me up as an arrogant prick.  

then i started talking to her friend the cock block, I was trying to interupt their conversation so they would listen to you.  the target turned away from me and toward you.  this was the first time she was facing you during the set.  

Look dude i didn't fully meen everything i said, but i was pissed.  you always have all the answers, but you are so busy running your stuff that you are not always aware of what is going on with the chicks your gaming.  when i said you won't get laid doing what you are doing i wasn't talking about mystery method, it clearly works, i have used several things with huge results.  what i am talking about is your attitude, your know it all attitude like you have it all figured out, everyone else is a dipshit and you are all knowing.  you won't get laid with that attitude, you also need to be aware of what is going on with the set you're working.  you think you know but you don't.  its ok not to know, i don't know shit!  However not knowing that you do not know everything, and thinking that you have all the answers is fatal.  this is a learning process in the field, not i read the book know it all and if i just spit this shit out of my mouth without social awareness i'll get laid.  

with that, i have a lot to learn to be a good wing, usually i just open a group of chicks, then spin them off to my friends, i have a ton to work on, but dude you do to.

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« Reply #101 on: September 08, 2006, 03:06:48 PM »
I think that's a pretty fair last line Smooth.  This is a near end to the newbie mission on asd's part so that's not really a knock.

In sales, managers prefer 'green' salesman so they can be molded according to the company.  Whereas natural salesman tend to have more problem fitting in because of the massive unlearning that needs to take place.

I'd say the same holds true for pickup as well.

If there's one thing we can ALL agree on - it's that the weather last night was pimptastic. :)

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« Reply #102 on: September 08, 2006, 03:45:19 PM »
That is the case if the salesman is either not doing well or switching industries.  I don't need to "unlearn"  I just use the info to augment what I already do, and improve.  Currently I am happy with my level of improvement.

As far as being a wing is concerned, I need to apply my ability to help the guy I am winging for.  My current sticking pointe is getting into a set without talking it over and stealing the target.  It seems that when I enter the set no matter what I do I end up getting IOI, it's frustrating because I want to help out my friend not take the chick.  Most of the time I don't even  like the chicks we are gaming.  I do alot better when I roll with an experienced pua like limitless, but i still need to learn.

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« Reply #103 on: September 08, 2006, 04:14:14 PM »
Yep, I was trying to essentially get at what you said was your sticking point.  Adjusting is probaby the better word.  And that would just be for wing dynamics if anything.  I think you had that waitress in a few words (though she was a 3-4 at best) lol :)

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« Reply #104 on: September 08, 2006, 06:23:52 PM »
There are alot of underlying dynamics that go with winging.   The most important factor is being at the same skill level.

Skynet and I meet up once in a while, but we don't do alot of winging, mainly because he's use to working alone; and I also find myself observing him rather than engaging...but the main reason is he's been involved with MM alot longer than I have so even though my pace still gets results, he moves through the different phases alot faster than I do.  


Esquire and I wing all the time, because we're both at about the same skill level and came from the same place of "natural game" or our own style that got us results just not ones we were satisified with.  And we both have a respect for the rules and one another.  Just a few things to think about when looking for a good wing.
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