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Sky's Conversation Enders Analysis
« on: July 29, 2008, 03:04:07 AM »
I've been asked about messaging game whether that be through the phone or computer.  I've recently observed a phenomenon that incorporates the concept of "sub text" into how willing she is to invest more time. This relates to stacking and building routines or stories.

Lets say you ask her a question that requires an answer more than just yes and no. You pick something in there you can relate to and elaborate on. This is basically how a conversation builds or goes into another direction. Often times when you're doing this over the computer whether that be email, myspace, instant message, etc. She can always throw you a conversation ender after her response to your message.

An example of a conversation ender would be something like:

blah blah blah (response)...
"Well I hope you had a good weekend"
"Enjoy the rest of your day"
"Have fun"
"It was nice talking to you"
or "Take care"

Theres a difference between those and

blah blah blah (response)...
"I'll talk to you later"
"Bye Bye"
"Thank you"
or "Goodnight".

In the first set of conversation enders, the subtext in them suggest "I'm ending this conversation".
The second set has the subtext of "Our interaction is over".

The advantage you have in message game is that there is no body language. Body language plays a huge role in applying the proper subtext to your spoken words. Since there is no body language or tonality. You can purposely misinterpret the implied subtext.

But if we go back to why she needs to suggest "I'm ending this conversation".

Reasons could be that:
She just doesn't have the time right now.
You're not hooking (not interesting enough to continue).
She is not comfortable going into that thread.
She wants to continue talking some other time.
She's looking forward to talking to you next time.

It doesnt mean:
She is done talking.
She doesnt want to continue this conversation.
She is ignoring you.

So to handle this, you can give it your own subtext. Let it mean "You have to hook me to buy more time". It is okay to be persistent in this case. For example she says "Well I hope you had a good weekend" (this normally comes from a conversation near the end of the night on Sunday), you can plow through it and use it as a tool to create a new thread. "Oh I had a blast. The craziest thing happend...blah blah blah". If it interests her, she'll invest more time and forget that she was trying to end the conversation in the first place. This often happens in person too after a good conversation, both parties are giving subtle signs that say "I need to get going" while at the same time there are signs that say "I can't get enough of this" In which case it would be smart to #close.

Just to give some more examples of ways to plow through them:

HB: "Enjoy the rest of your day" can be
PUA:"Oh I will, I'm meeting up with my friend later and we're gonna do blah blah blah".

HB: "It was nice talking to you"
PUA: "I had great fun talking to you, you remind me of... blah blah have you ever....?"

Basically you're just staying talkative, but more importantly you gotta amp up your material to something more exciting than what you were just talking about. The whole goal is to intrigue and provoke a response from her, perhaps even get her to open up to you some more which will increase rapport.

Now the second set of conversation enders is more of a mutual agreement from both parties that the conversation is over since there are default responses to each of those. And persisting on those may seem too needy or attention craving. It's is better to respond to those by using the default response, then tagging one of the conversation enders from the first list along with it. This keeps the door open for further investment so to speak.

Often times, if your conversation is not in person, you're gonna need to have some patience. If she doesn't respond right away, give her time. It may even take a few days. If she ignores it completely, cut to something else another time and start from the top.

Finally, I'd like to add that the "Yes and" or "Agree and amplify" concept applies well in text game. It gets really flirtatious really quickly that way. Giving her direct answers is one way to end your own thread. Keep it interesting.
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