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Offline bigbear86

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2010, 12:31:25 PM »
LR Friday night
   Met up Dab Hand and we rolled out to some bar in Scottsdale for a warm up it was right next to old town but I forget the name.  We went in to the back and he starts talking to some girl and I open this 2 set that's sitting down in a minute he comes over and we pair up.  He's talking to the girl on his side and I'm talking to the girl on my side for a couple of minutes and this big guy rolls up probably 6"1 230 and is really chill and I start chatting him up like "bro you must play ball" and all this kind of shit feeding up his ego.  We talk for a minute or so and he totally switches on me and is like "that's my girlfriend next to you and the girl your buddy is talking to is pregnant", and he's like I know what you guys are looking for but don't waste your time here, and I could tell by his tone that he was starting to get a little pissed, he keeps getting more and more upset and finally I pull Dab Hand out of set and tell him what's up.  This guy really had my adrenaline pumping, we later talk about better ways I could have handled it. But not now we each open one more set, talk to these weird ass girls from Michigan and take off to Saddle.
   I proceeded to open  at least 6 sets there and no one's hooking, I really can't catch a break.  I leave and go to Gillian's and open 4 more sets over there.  Dab meets me up and we head to Junkie with 20 minutes left before close.  I open a few inside then finally one hooks and starts talking to me, the eye contact is there I can tell it's on she picks up her phone and starts talking on it but starts grinding on me at the same time.  She puts it away and we start dancing face to face eye contact is crazy we are literally staring right into each other and holding it for like 10 seconds , I pull her in and we start to make out,  we do this for the next 5-10 mins off and on, she tells me she likes short guys, she is a 7 almost think an 8 for a minute, dark hair and blue eyes, but the next morning she changes to a 6 haha.  I meet up Dab at the entrance, he's with a chick and tell my chick and her friend they should come back and grab breakfast with us.  Her friend almost gets her to leave but Dab grabs her and somehow convinces them to come on the rickshaw with us probably saving my night, prop's buddy.  We get stuck in traffic and start walking, our group splits me and blue eyes are heavily making out.  I suggest going to my place all the way in Gilbert and drinking some wine, she AGREES with this idea.  She DITCHES her friend, we get into my car and head to Gilbert, I have to keep her entertained and her mind off what's going on for 20 minutes, I do this by off and on make outs and some sing-along's that I have in my car (girls love good sing-alongs). We get there and she doesn't even care about the wine we go straight to my room and start making out, I start to finger her and after 10 minutes pull her pants off put a condom on and start to fuck.  About half way through she stops me and is like "that's all guys are after" referring to sex of course  so I sat next to her and LIE my ass off about how it's not, and then she says then prove it, I have no idea why this chick is going crazy all of the sudden, but I really wanna nut.  I give her the cold shoulder and she comes back on to me I finish it off and we pass out I take her home in the morning.
That's all for now it has been an incredible week 3 LR's and 2 SNL's, my mind is literally in disbelief, as before this kind of thing was completely out of my reality, and is racing I am in such a good state right now.  And it's all my doing I could have stayed in all those nights but didn't I pushed myself to open,open,open, and I got some good results. 
ON a side note anyone who wants to get serious go out and open set's PM me, always looking for new insight.... PEACE   

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 09:42:51 AM »
June 27, 2010
OK so here is my last week in highlights.... Went out last Monday and opened 6 nothing too great but a few hooks,  not too bad because I didn't get out till 12.  Went out last Thursday and got 3 numbers all good looking girls 2 of them were 8's for sure, started at devil's advocate and opened 4 there a few hooked and got one number but nothing too crazy I through those first few out anyways.  We went to Barneys and I opened the first 2 set I saw 2 Blondie's both 7's one was giving me mad eye contact as we continued to talk for 10-15 minutes I finally asked her if she had a boyfriend and she said yes for three years and that they were very serious.  So I decided to cut my losses and we left and walked to mill we went to 301 where I opened the one set that was inside and then bounced to zuma, I opened 3 here and one on the dance floor she was hot.  This girl was dancing and I went right up to her and was like " I like your energy"  because she was like bouncing up and down she said thanks, and quickly we were in a conversation, I started joking with her about how I'm trying not to brag but I have a Ford Mustang, and when she said that she used to have one I was like "was It a GT?",  she responded no and I then said " If you didn't have a GT, I can't talk to you anymore" and started walking away she pulled me back by the arm and then I locked myself in against the booth, so at this point it looked like she was gaming me,  I then just bullshitted for a minute and was like "how do you like to hold hands" and did that whole routine on her she qualified herself when I asked if she was a jealous girl.  The eye contact was defiantly there I almost felt like I should have gone for a make out, but didn't.  This girl was HOT at the very least an 8, I tried to get her to bounce to Cue Club but she said no that her friends were here. I said " you seem like an interesting girl put your number in my phone"  she gave me a weird look, i said " you know what I don't even know you really but I think your cute"  SHE put her first and last name in my phone.  I then left to cue club, that interaction lasted about 6 minutes but I was very pleased with myself because she was very attractive.  The rest of the night I opened 3 more and nothing really hooked. 
   Friday night met up Dab Hand and we rolled out to Scottsdale, we pulled up and got a parking place right next to Gillian's,  he ran up to this girl we saw as we were parking, as she was walking and opened her and talked for a few minutes,  A for effort man, nothing is impossible.  We met back at Gillians and there was nothing everyone was paired up.  FUCK it headed to Drift and opened 2 in there one really hooked and me and Dab split off with the 2 girls and talked to them for 15 minutes at least, they ended up going to the bathroom to talk or whatever, but I think that he made plans to hang with his tomorrow, mine got weird with me all of the sudden,  like we were going great and then all of the sudden she just left and talked to her friend and was like " I have to go to the bathroom" , I think I did the hand hold thing for too long, anything in excess is bad.   Went to the lodge after that and opened a 2 set , sat down with them for 10 mins and bounced nothing real there. Went to junkie opened 2 sets, and then ran into one of the girls that I had an SNL with last week. She followed me for a minute then I bounced she then text me and called me after I left, but I didn't respond.  One of my friends was bitching me out via text about not going to mill, I started to get into a really bad state.  I met up Dab and we went into shotgun betty's.  I opened 3 sets in there, convinced to get out of my bad mood, the last set I opened had a 7 and an 8, I started bullshiting and the 7 left and I was getting into mad eye contact with the other girl,  we talked for like 3 minutes longer and I was like your kinda cute and then she was like "I think your cute too" , I went in and we made out, for the last 20 minutes we just talked and made out and danced then left got my car took her to her car and made out some more, tried to convince her to do something after but she kept saying " No I'm not that kind of girl"  we made plans to meet up on Saturday and hang out but when I text her the next day she didn't respond till 12 at night... we'll see where this goes hopefully a day 2.  You can never really know where a girl is at though, for all I know she could have had a boyfriend, the one thing that I can say for sure is that the more doors that you can knock on the more that will open, when I put it all together I opened 35-40 sets last week, and only got one make out, but she was WAY hot and I have a lot more experience.  I WANT and am going to get to the point where I am opening 50 sets a week.  THIS will get me to a new level and get much more experience under my belt ultimately boosting my game to the next level.  It's not easy to go out and get shut down , and have to deal with rejection but the more you can the more results you'll get ...... PEACE

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 02:34:02 AM »
sounds like you're doin good man but don't be so hard on yourself...fifty is just a number...are you going to pass up 7 lays because you haven't talked to enough girls yet that week?

I think that kind of criteria is good if you're not opening..i.e. "I'm going to talk to at least 5 girls a night..." but if you're opening just go out and have fun, and open.
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Feel safe at night, sleep with a nurse.

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 02:56:38 PM »
July 4, 2010
Ok sooo where to begin... I have been out the last 3 nights and approached somewhere in the 40's all in Tempe
   I'll start with my most recent night Saturday, I went out to this bar by my house to meet some of my friends after the fight, there was not a whole lot there it was mostly dudes and ugly chicks. But after being there for about 20 this table of 4 cougars showed up and one was defiantly Do-able prob a seven at best but was dressed hot.  I went over and cheers them all and just started talking, PLOWING THROUGH (this is when I just keep talking till something sticks... which ACTUALLY works) , I forget what stuck, but something did, and about 3 minutes later I was sitting down with them and would continue to do so for the next 20, the majority of the conversation was with me and the hot cougar and I asked if she was in a relationship and did multiple handholds, throughout the interaction. Then my bro and one of my good friends showed up and I introduced them, they told me they were going to head to mill (twist my arm will ya), I agreed and told the cougar that I was leaving but told her to put her number in my phone and that we should be drinking buddies sometime, she did and I held it up to her phone to make sure it was the right number and it was, we actually did some light texting later that night.
   Slammed a green tea, and a 5 hour energy really quick to wake up and headed to mill (BTW I don't really think those 5 hour energy's really work) Got to mill headed into Rula opened the first mixed set and was like "that shot looks horrible" because one of the girls faces was like twisted, this other girl a solid 8 was like "these are horrible, here try mine", gave me her shot and it was horrible, so I gave it back, then my friend comes back from the bathroom (he's a ripped as shit 6"2' natural to paint a better picture), and we talk to her for a minute as her friends go sit down but then the guy calls her over and she's like sorry gotta go and poof! gone.  We head out back and I cheers these two 7's, and talk PLOWING THROUGH for the first 30 seconds until something clicks, then my friend comes up and in 3 minutes we are sitting talking with them for like another few minutes until this dude comes over with another girl from their group, and they sit down with us, then those two girls get up and leave to go to the bathroom, and it gets kinda awkward, and we bounce about a minute later, heading to cue club where I proceed to open 4 more sets 2 at the bar, and then one is actually walking to the back and I introduce myself as they are walking past I felt that this one almost worked, I then get into a five minute conversation with this hottie at the front, The eye contact is there, she has an absolutely perfect smile and is at the worst an 8, our conversation consists of dolphins, Pokémon and ASU, and Chicago (Pokémon actually showed up on spell check... weird), she tells me that she just dates and has no boyfriend,  I KNOW that I NEED to go for the hand hold but FUCK she is just too hot, I don't want to lose the validation I just got by talking to her (or at least my ego doesn't). She sees another guy she knows and POOF! gone so am I, I'm not waiting for her to come back, a part of me feels that I should have pulled her back... something to think about.   
   We head to Zuma, while in line I open this three set on the patio with 2 sevens and a 6, and come back and talk to them as soon as I get through the line. One of the 7's keeps slapping me in like a tag team and we share her drink, it's actually really funny, and a free drink, I bullshit with them for 5 minutes and bounce, getting the 7's number and planning on meeting them at 301 later, (should have just done the location bounce looking back). It's one and we head to Tavern only to be disappointed its dead and everyone is paired up. So we head to 301 I open one more here and we run into ZUMA girls, and they are excited to see us, I pull the one in who I got her number earlier, and get some hand holds, Twirl her around and dance for a minute, get some more hand holds outside of my routine, call her a cutie and then they head to the patio, we never see them again even though I plan to meet them on the patio, we run into my friends, friends, talk with them and then leave... why the FUCK I didnt go back out to that patio still has me in awe, sometimes I think we are all not playing to win, but just NOT to LOOSE... after getting that validation I didn't want to lose it my ego got the best of me.

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 06:41:34 PM »
   I went out for the first time alone last Thursday and It was pretty nerve racking at first but the same principals apply, and by the end of the night I felt no different than if I would have been out with friends, because even when I go out with friends I still approach alone.  It's just when your alone you have no group to fall back to, I think this was a really big step for me, every time that I put myself into tough situations that are way out of my comfort zone I am always better off for it.  I approached 13 the whole night and was super into state when I got to the end of the night, I didn't get any numbers but it was a great experience and I think there will be a lot more of this to come although I would still prefer to go out with other people.  Sometimes you have to adapt, and step up, and if no one wants to go out to take action.
   Yesterday I decided to text up all of the numbers that I had got the week before at the same time with the "hey what's up" so I text 7 numbers that I had gotten last week and 2 numbers that I had gotten the week before.  And the results were shocking or at least not what I expected there were a few girls that I had just met for like 2 minutes tops and got there number, one text me for a while but it led nowhere, and one didn't, the girl from the dance floor at Zuma text me back a lot (this was the hottest one), and almost agreed to meet up for a drink but then said we should do it another time last minute,  a couple of girls that I met  last Friday when I went out with some guys from the form after the RSD movie watch both text me back, and one wants to meet for drinks this weekend... surprisingly the one that I made out with at Shotgun Betty's a week and a half ago has not text me back at all.  I text this girl that I met a month ago and she actually remembered me but only shot me one text back.  So it was looking as if I wasn't going to meet up any day 2's last night... until the cougar  that I met at a bar by my house text me later at like 7 saying "hey how are you" we texted back and forth a few times and then I just called her, and we talked for 30 minutes on the phone, and I got her to meet me up for a drink at 9 30 at a bar a few miles from my house.
   I got there and called her, she was almost there so I asked her what she wanted to drink she said a Coors Light so I ordered it and sat down at a bar top that was kind of away from everything in the corner.. and she walked in WAY hotter then I remembered for a 39 year old she was smoking I wouldn't give her an 8 but def a solid 7.5 .  She was 5 feet tall and had blond hair and green eyes, very petite probably 105 lbs and perfect smile.  She sat down and we went on to talk for another 3 hours, me using my usual game which I seem to be improving with because of the mass number of approaches that I have been doing lately.  I would get very deep into conversations and then bring it back because I realize that getting into very logical conversations is killing the attraction.  Like one time I got to talking about how some people think that the human minds are all interlinked through one huge subconscious mind (a very serious tone) and then was like so since I have done meth you must have too ( this was a very playful tone I'm not like saying it like I have actually done meth but like just serious enough that it generates enough tension and release to cause laughter) .  I told her  (while grabbing her hand) that I had my doctors degree in Pokémon, then explained the concept of Pokémon to her.  I just went for a lot of hand holds probably like five at least, and the last one she held for like 3 minutes. Then I told her that she should come back to my place and drink some wine and she said no that she had to work in the morning,  we left about 30 minutes later and as she was going to her car I pulled her in and we made out off and on for the next 5 minutes all the while talking about how we were going to hang out later this week... That's it so for the last two weeks I have done 80 approaches approx and only got one day 2, BUT AT LEAST I GOT ONE, and I am getting experience, I will KEEP trying to hit my 50 a week goal, I KNOW that it's just about getting in the reps, I WILL get good...

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 01:55:27 PM »
July 12, 2010
   So I went out with some of the guys from the forum after watching Tim from RSD and discussing what he was talking about, great ideas by the way.  That night we went to downtown Phoenix and all the clubs were nothing compared to Scottsdale but still had people in them.. in this one club that we went into I probably opened 60% of the girls in there, and got a phone number from a mildly attractive black chick, who actually texted me back and forth a little that night, and a few handholds from this 7 that I met when we came back because my friend left his card there.  The 7 was the in the first group that I approached while coming back in the second time, by then I had already opened 10 and was defiantly in a good state I approached her friends and she came up and was like "are you hitting on my girlfriend , she's with me" and I was like "so she's the nice one" she came back with "no, I'm actually mean" and I said "no your nice I can tell" and shook her hand introducing myself, we talked for like 3-4 minutes just about bullshit and I told her that I would be back, I just had to find my friends, went upstairs opened a few more then came back down and grabbed her from her group, pulled her over and introduced her to my friends, wrapped her arm around me and said don't we look good together. I kept grabbing for her hand and talking to her and then she would pull a little away and then I would go for it again, I think on this one I got way too aggressive with the hand hold, because she like had to leave all the sudden and bolted... But hey how are you ever going to know that the line is there if you don't cross it?
Other than that I hung out with that cougar a couple more times last week and finally Saturday night went over to her house and GAME OVER got it!!!
I will be going out Wednesday through Saturday night this week, unless I have some day 2's anyone who wants to go out hit me up or PM me, and hopefully we will have that RSD thing again on Friday, if no one else can do it I will have it at my house     

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 02:09:33 PM »
    July 18, 2010
Where to begin... so I went out the last three nights and had a blast, well the last 4 but technically just 3 doing sargeing, opened at LEAST 50 sets probably even more.  I'll start with last night I met up polectrix at Dos in old town and walked in solo but immediately opened one group and talked for a minute then he called me and told me that he left his ID at home we went back to his place and swooped it up, this was actually really good because it gave me something that I could immediately put into action, he had Ryan from RSD on his I pod and something that he said really stuck, and was useful later that night. 
   So we get back to DOS and immediately open this 3 set right next to us at the bar with a semi cougar? but overall 3 attractive girls talk to them for a minute, then go up front open 2 more groups and then go to the upstairs patio, which is closed off.  I opened the next set of girls with this situational opener of how is the patio closed off, and that we should break down the door and call our friends telling them that we have VIP.  We go on to talk to these girls for 15 minutes, maybe even more,  with a lock in by sitting down with them and I get ones number and Polectrix gets the other, both 7's. I actually like the girl he got and he likes the girls number that I got so hopefully we'll do a switcheroo in the future :)
   We head to White House and its really loud I open one but it's really hard to talk, BC this club is loud as they come.  We talk for a minute and I tell them this is the most prestigious club, BC its where the president lives hahahahah!!   We head to saddle ranch where I go on to open 5 and get blown out a few times but open two sets well, the last one says she's pretty much done with her boyfriend and wants to go to Cali with me on my upcoming trip so I tell her to give me her number Ill only call 10 times a day, as I pull out my phone to give it to her something shifts her focus , I don't remember what it was that made the shift but I'm standing there with my phone out like a jackass, so I put it away and keep talking to them, in a minute SHE tells me to pull my phone back out and types in her number ... SOLID.  We ditch Saddle and head to Mulligan's where I open one sitting down... nothing , we head to The Lodge.
   On our way I'm like way in state and open this Asian girl with a high five and chat her up a minute she has the Hottest group of Asian girls with her and she asks where we are going, and says they are going to Junkie, we go to junkie and the lines too long so we really head to The Lodge, I open a couple more in here but nothing hooks.  Then head to Drift Polectrix opens the Asian girl from earlier and number closes, I open this 2 set that's sitting down with "these misters are getting in the way of my texting and I have the I phone you don't have the droid do you?" this ends with me and Polectrix talking to them and having a sit down lock in for 10 minutes at least,  the blondy that I'm talking to is a knockout 8.5 even possibly a 9, we talk for a while eye contact is on I can feel the attraction I have been doing some handholds, I ask her if she has a boyfriend she says yes but goes on to tell me how he's all into drugs and she hates that.  As we're about to bounce Polectrix suggests that we exchange numbers, I tell him that she has a boyfriend though, but after a quick second of reconsideration hand her my phone and say "we can be friends and whenever your boyfriend overdoses on ecstasy give me a call", this gets a laugh she punches in her number and we bounce.   I am in a great state now this night is AWESOME!!! We soon learn that afterlife is open till 4 so we go there and after deciding not to pay the cover we just talk to these girls that are 19 and 20 through the fence... VERY COMMICAL they are both cuties and we get both their numbers, they want us to come dance with them, maybe we should have but we head to a pizza joint and text them later that they should come party with us after but they are going home,  I'm pretty sure we will hang out with them again,  but the same thing happened I was into his girl and he liked mine... but either way they were both hot.  The situation was very funny though wer not going to pay the cover but wer still going to talk through the fence to probably the hottest girls in the club hahahahahaha!     
   Thursday was nothing special just opened a lot of sets got a number, got into a lot of good conversations but nothing really crazy. It is hot as FUCK out got blown out pretty bad by this guy when I opened his two girls at barneys and he told me that he is a lucky guy because he gets to have sex with them every night, blew it off and kept opening. 
   Friday was better met up at that RSD thing and opened A LOT got 4 numbers one that I'm pretty sure wasn't real and one that I defiantly think will pan out as I was sitting there talking to her for like 30 minutes.  I got one in the parking lot on our way to the car I was like we are only going to follow you girls for like 5 miles, then it opened I called the girl a cutie and got her number really fast interaction, but hey add it to the list of numbers to text up right!
I'm going to talk about a few things that are helping me lately and maybe could help someone else out:
First off I am cultivating an abundance mind set , I opened more than 50 this week and not only did not see any of these girls on the next nights that I went out but most I didn't even see that night again! These last 4 weeks I have opened on my estimation 160 + girls and how many of them have I ran into again out of 160?... 0! I'm almost sure NONE or if I did I didn't remember them, there is thousands of girls out every weekend night between Scottsdale and Mill.  This abundance mindset is a good thing that I am starting to develop because it frees me from the fear of loss, which is one of the most painful emotions, it really is making me be able to push the reset button more often which is making me come off better to every girl that I interact with.  Something that I did the other day was drive around my house which I have lived at fro over 13 years  within a mile or 2 radius and drove through MANY neighborhoods that I had never even seen before, it was kind of crazy that you live in one place soooo long and you wouldn't even know a neighborhood within a mile of your own house, and in saying that I'm trying to show how BIG Phoenix really is, I recommend it, it could really help some of you guys with the abundance mindset thing. 
Another thing I'm really going to recommend is to through the first 4-5 away and more than that if you have to,  time and again I see myself coming off like a different guy at the end of the night, than the beginning, if you can keep opening you will get there and it's something that just has to be done.
HUMILIATION is one of the worst emotions we can feel according to Tony Robbins in his book that I'm reading Awaken the Giant Within which is an awesome book.  So it's easy to see how anyone can quickly become stifled and freeze up if the first set goes bad, its happened to me soooo many times I can't even count and then I'm out for the night.  To deal with this I recommend going to a place that if you get blown out you can quickly go to another group then another , until you get a conversation going... More to come later but I have to get to work right now. 
I'll be out a lot next week anyone that wants to sarge let me know always down meet new people and go out!!!!    And we should defiantly do that RSD thing again next Friday if no one else can I can do it at my house   

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2010, 11:51:18 PM »
August 1, 2010 double LR
   This week has been pretty interesting, I went out with Tweezer like 4 times and had some major success. I was texting this girl all week and had solid plans to meet up on Wednesday, and when I text her on Wednesday to meet up she didn't respond, this was a little frustrating considering that I had now been blown off 4 times in the last week and a half, from girls that I had thought were going to be solid meet ups.  I got a little upset  to say the least, but then started texting a few other girls that I had been pinging,  this girl that I had meet at zuma a month ago responded that she didn't know what she was doing that night, so I called her talked to her for 5 minutes and made plans to meet up at this bar by my house in like 3 hrs at 9... 840 rolls around and I call her to make sure that wer on, before I do I make sure that I prepare for a bad answer and if she says no that I'm going to go out solo if I have to ( something that I have adopted lately is that the nights I get blown off I absolutely go out Its a great strategy and a better way to handle your frustration than just sitting home).  She picks up and we are on, she's just leaving now, so I head out that way.
   When I get there I meet her at the bar she's way hotter than I remember she's an 8 for sure, we talk for about an hour and genuinely hit it off she's got a way cool personality, I keep the eye contact strong and keep holding her hands for stupid shit, the more that I do this hand holding thing the more that I realize that you really don't need a reason to hold a girls hand it is really direct but that's what I've been trying to incorporate into my game and it seems to be working A LOT. We go to the patio and this time she doesn't let go of my hands when I go for the double hand hold, I talk for a minute looking straight into her eyes, then I go in and we make out off and on for the next 30 minutes then leave she agrees to go back to my place even though it is 12 and she has to be up at 6, Its ON.  We get there and finish half a bottle of wine then I lead her to my room and it was an awesome close to the night!!! The girl that blew me off texts me later that she had problems at her work and she's sorry she didn't get back to me, even though I am almost 100% sure this is bullshit I reply " it's all good we will have to do it another night :)" the girl that I hooked up with was way hotter than the girl I had plans with hahaha.
   Went out with tweezer and Dr.D on Friday and we met in old town,  started opening like crazy, made our way to dos where tweezer had this hot chick hooked, and me and the doc were talking to this 3 set he merged his set into ours, we talked to these girls for like 10 minutes then the 3 we were talking to took off, and we took turns entertaining  his hot girls ugly friend, we bounced to acme, and then me and the doc parted ways from tweezer, and went on to drift. Opened a few there and at the lodge, then this girl who had been texting me the whole night( another one who had blown me off the last week, she is 19) called me and said she was outside the bar that I was at.  She was outside a bar down the street that I had told her that I was at earlier, so I told her to come meet me outside of the lodge, she called me later and told me she couldn't find it but she was in front of AXIS, so me and the doc left and headed to axis where she met me up out front and within a minute we were holding hands and within 2 were making out, as her friend comes back the doc gets touchy feely with her and as it is now 2 we make plans to go back to the docs place in Tempe and go hot tubing.  We follow them back to their car and they give us a ride back to ours, we all drive back to Tempe and head up to his place put our suits on and head down to the pool, its sooo perfect out the rain is coming down but not too hard so it's nice and cool out and the hot tub at his place is just badass, couldn't be a more perfect setting.  We are both making out with our chicks and just having a blast, and a lot of laughs the vibe is perfect, we stay down there for like 20 minutes, then the doc takes his chick back to his place and me and mine are fooling around for like 20 more until we head up we mess around a little more then I take her into a room and DONE!   
That night I had a big realization because the whole time that we were hanging out I just didn't care about the outcome and that was probably due to me getting laid earlier in the week but this chick was cute and I normally would have been more into her and trying more stuff, like trying to be more funny and trying to make out more and keep her more entertained, but instead I was just chill and really unreactive and indifferent to weather I got laid or not, and because of this I could tell that she was way more into me, and it just happened.  Ultimatly to get more of the hotter girls into my life I will have to make the shift from being like I can't believe this is happening to me to the mindset of  this is who I am and of course these girls like me I'm a cool motha fucka.
This last month and a half I have gotten laid by 6 different girls and it has been truly amazing, something that before was totally out of my reality.  I have been out of a relationship now for 5 months and for the first 3 and 1/2 I only got laid once, then something really clicked and I started meeting the right wingmen and it shot my success through the roof.  I am not saying I am a pimp or anything along those lines, and I don't even think that I'm close to where I want to be, but there has been a few things that I would like to put down that have truly boosted my success.
1. Opening more to get into state:  I know I have written about this before but this is one of the big basic things that I can attribute to my success.  Throw the first few away and go to a place with a lot of sets so you can do so, when you come into a bar or club you are usually not in a talkative state and are coming off way different than you do at the end of the night (if you are opening a lot), when I go out now I open 10-15 no problem.  Going up to the first 3 and getting blown out or ejecting and not continuing to open throughout the night is a BIG mistake.  Once you are in a good state you just are coming off way better most of the pulls I have had or the numbers that I have gotten that have lead somewhere probably 90% have happened within the last hour or two at the bar when I was in that good state.
2. Phone numbers:  get as many as you can, because you never know where a girl is at, like she could just get back with her boyfriend the next day after she met you, or she could have buyers remorse or one of her parents just could have died and she's tied up and distraught and doesn't really have any time on her hands ( I know that's really extreme but you really don't  know). And she could just be getting out of a relationship and looking for someone to hang out with, you DON'T know, all of my success that I have had with the 2 lays from this week were girls that our interactions when we first met were not totally solid and have lasted a whole of 10 minutes or less, and then just kept pinging them on the phone until we met up.
3. Rejection:  Its one of the worst emotions we feel as humans it suck's but learning to deal with it is the only way that you really get better, I personally like to take it as feedback.  It's kind of a simple equation THE MORE YOU GET REJECTED THE MORE YOU GET LAID, this last month and a half I have gotten rejected and blown off far more than I ever have in my life within that span of time, but I have also gotten laid more than I ever have in that span of time. If you want to get better at the game you have to play! You really just have to learn through experience how to deal with rejection better, and it is very painful sometimes but for me at least not nearly as painful as sitting at home and watching my life pass me by.
4. Being more direct:  this is huge I don't really have the time to talk about it right now BC I have to get to work but simple things like hand holding and calling girls cute or telling them you like them in a non creepy way has had a HUGE effect on my game.   

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2010, 11:40:44 AM »
August 6, 2010
Met up tweezer in old town at 10 we talked about game and what we were working on for about 30 minutes, my big thing being more direct then headed to dos. I opened 3 in there the first went well and I talked to her for about 10 minutes she was an 8 hot and perfect smile, blond. I opened her from the other side of the middle bar and then went around and kept talking, her friends all liked me and I held her hand a few times, but then started to run out of things to say.  When you go 4 days without going out sometimes it phases you for the first few sets, you have to break through that social barrier again.

 They went to get more drinks and I opened 2 more one went well but they were 6's at best, then the next set I couldn't even find anything to talk to them about, even vomiting words and plowing through.  We headed to Saddle where we opened this 3 set sitting in the bar, really the only non mixed set in the whole place, within 2 minutes they blew us off and were sitting in a booth on the other side of the bar. Tweezer opens and gets locked into one more then we leave and go to revolver.

I dance floor open, it's actually not that bad once you have done it a few times and have some references to it, this 2 set one is a cutie a 7.5 maybe an 8 real cute face, she's really meaty but holds it well and has a flat stomach. Just start doing the usual stupid bullshit and joking around, find out that the're sisters and give the little unattractive one a little more attention ( damn mystery method fucked me up). Talk to them for a few minutes and then bounce to shotguns.

We get there and I open this blond while tweezer occupy's her friend, talk to her for a second and then go direct, you're a cutie hold both of her hands for a second start dancing with her, then for some reason I like go back into entertainer mode and start talking to her .  This incongruent digression I feel that she can feel and soon leaves to the patio to go smoke,  it's like I had the balls to go direct and go for the hand hold but then went back to indirect and lost faith in myself like half way through the interaction.

DIRECT + COOL = ATTRACTIVE
DIRECT + UNCOOL (STILL IN HEAD, NOT 100% BELIEF) = CREEPY

Go back to AXIS its dead see those 2 girls from revolver on the dance floor, start talking to the attractive one and we start holding hands and I go for the kiss because I really feel that it is there, she backs away, but we're dancing and she is still holding my hands. Dance a little more and then go in again she backs away again, but is still holding my hands!
We dance and talk for like 2 more minutes all the while holding hands and I go in for it this time she backs up on but not as quick and we kiss but just briefly and on the lips. Her sister keeps trying to dance with me ( she's not cute at all), and I keep going with it for a little while but then coming back and dancing with her.

 I tell her to come talk on the patio, she does but her sister soon follows, and proceeds to talk about how she looks up to her sister and how she was into my friend, and how she liked me and was into me first (damn MM, still partially engrained in my head).  It's weird her sister won't even let anyone talk she just keeps ranting for like 10 minutes, obviously compensating for being unattractive, for a second I think this is probably how I come off sometimes and  I defiantly need to work on slowing my talking down.   

I can't do this anymore I go for this girls number twice and twice get shot down, I KNOW she's into me, she held my hands for practically 5-7 mins.  But her sister likes me and it really fucks everything up, I should have NEVER shown any interest to her sister in the first place.  Her sister says that she is still married when she leaves to get some water, I'm done with this, leave, meet up tweezer and bounce to jackrabbit.

Inside I just start opening nothing is hooking, its loud as a motha fucka, and def the darkest club inside that I think I've ever been to. Go to the patio see this girl passing by we meet eyes, I grab her hand and attempt to pull her in, but her friend is pulling her the other way and our hands break.

I start talking to this bouncer that works one of the bars that I usually go to, those same 2 chicks come passed and the shorter one this time makes direct eye contact with me, and says something and I'm like what, but she just keeps going, finish this convo with the bouncer quickly, and grab her by her hand as she's walking inside, PULL her and her friend back outside and Tweezer immediately occupy's the tall one, within 60 seconds I'm making out with this chick, and within 30 minutes were leaving on the way back to our cars, and I push her against a wall and start fingering her.

She won't go back to my place but will go back to the Butes, and has a swimsuit, so we go there sneak into the hot tub/pool and fool around some more.  But she won't have sex, o well she's a 6.5 - 7 at best.

I think that getting into a physical state can be similar to a talkative state, for me at least I can't help looking at how the night progressed, held hands with girl at dos, held hands with girl at shotgun's, held hands for longer at Axis, PULLED girl into me at Jackrabbit, it's like by the time that I got to Jackrabbit it was just natural. 
   
August 7,2010
Went out on Friday and met up tweezer in Tempe opened a few in margarita rocks, then went to tavern and opened a few, the last set hooked really well there and the girls left to get drinks but the one that I was into told me to come up to the bar with them. 

I grabbed her number and told her that she was a cutie and we should hang out sometime but that I had to leave and find my friends( I got somewhat of a half assed handhold at the table from her).  Just then I ran into like 3 of my good girlfriends this defiantly added value to my ALREADY good interaction. Me and her actually text back and forth a few times later that night and she wants to hangout sometime for sure, she actually qualified herself a little to me, saying am I ok that she's so old (she's only 27).

We went to rula and a few more bars, and I opened like 3 more, then decided to go to Scottsdale because mill was kinda dead.

On the way over I can tell I lose the state that I had, this is something that me and tweezer were talking about and it sometimes will happen if you leave one place and have to drive to another, or if you sit out and are cold not talking to anyone.  There is only one solution for this and that's doing your warm ups again, ( you don't fully get out of that state you just get into another state more like a receptive state, if your just standing around and watching everyone)  so I did them at dirty pretty, and I talked to this one group of girls and went direct to the cute one prob a 7, I told her that she was cute and held her hand, then they left me standing there and went to the patio.

I found tweezer and was trying to avoid the patio because I knew they were out there and just really felt bad about the shut down, continued to open inside and finally we went to the patio, where those girls were. I was just sitting there talking to tweezer and another guy from the forum, then re opened them, this time it went well, and they were way more receptive.  As I got to talking to the 7 we held hands again then she went to go sit with her other friends, back turned towards me. I told tweezer that I was going to go for the #, shit went this far why not try, and he went to the bathroom.  I went to give her a hug good bye, and said "give me your number you're a cutie". She responded " really? ok" got her number and called her phone, the number exchange was awkward to say the least.

Went to disco and opened on the dance floor this cougar who was not attractive, started dancing like a jackass just out of self amusement, caught eye contact with this girl that was 29, approached hand held, number exchange, we should hang some time you're a cutie, ejected.

Got to junkie feeling no love it was the deadest I've seen on a Friday, no one was opening, phone rang, who was it? the girl from Dirty Pretty in her exact words or the closest that I can remember to them "are you still in Scottsdale because I am still here, let me know where you're at if you wanna hook up"  WTF!! I call her back in like 2 and tell her to meet me at drift she calls me like 5 minutes later and is outside Junkie she comes in, we dance and make out she's getting aggressive sucking on my neck and initiating the make outs. 

I start to lose the attraction for her I don't know why, maybe it's because I was beat tired, maybe it's because it was too easy, maybe it's because she is being too aggressive, or maybe it's just because I've been whacking it too much lately, or maybe I just tried to convince myself that I was attracted to her and wasn't. 

I say my goodbyes and leave back to Tempe to pick up my car, but drop the we should hang sometime, even though I can sense that she wants to hang out more that night, and nights over.  Something to take away from  that night is that YOU REALLY NEVER KNOW, sometimes your perception of what's going on is not THEIR perception, so IF you have been talking to a girl you find any what attractive GO for the number,  you really have nothing to lose.

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2010, 10:17:27 AM »
September 25, 2010
   I have been way sick these past 4 weekends so have not been going out to much just starting to feel better and get back into the swing of things... went out to Scottsdale on Thursday night as my first night back into the game prob approached about 12-15 sets  to break that social barrier. Got 3 numbers and a few handholds nothing crazy but awesome for a first night back.  I think It's good, especially if you haven't been out in a while to approach A LOT your first night back in the field it helps you break through that social barrier and get back into the groove.  I think that JUST hitting the basics works too AWESOMLEY, like I go out with one thought in my mind, and that's to approach. Many times what I see is that I go out and weigh myself down with too much to do, like I'm going to go up approach, get physical, lead her around the bar, go for the make out, on top of that I'm worrying what I'm going to talk about and how I'm going to be authentic.  With all this in my head it is hard to approach I'm just trying to remember too much stuff to do and really THATS what's getting in the way of my game.  If I can just go up and keep approaching I will eventually snap myself into state and most of the other stuff will take care of itself.
Friday we all met up again it was me, Tweezer, Polectrix, and one other guy not sure what his name is on the forum yet but he's very good and has a solid approach and a lot of energy.  We started at dos where we all approached probably every set in there and then headed to junkie where we spent the next 2 1/2 to three hours.  It was polectrix idea to go there and just chill the whole night, and approach all the girls in there and by the end of the night we would all feel more comfortable and like we owned the place and just more comfortable to approach, and it worked LIKE A CHARM.  I had been feeling sick and had told the guys this before we got to junkie, it is hard to approach when you feel shitty but was going to stick it out till at least 1, and this wasn't a lie my sickness is still there just a little but not enough to keep me from going out.
We got to Junkie and I was way in my own head, had already given up on the night and it wasn't even 12. So we started playing the GAME where you have 30 seconds to approach and if not you get hit, started with polectrix, then Tweezer, then me and even though I was sick and way in my own head they still made me approach, and when I didn't they approached 2 girls for me and said that I wanted to meet them, the first was this tall girl which I didn't say a word to, then this cuter mexican girl and that was way awkward. After a few rounds of that I really just started approaching and this game we played got us all to throughout the night approach close to 20 each.  That's 4 guys 1 night club continuous approaching let's just be easy and say we did 15 each, that's still 60 approaches and there were still many more girls to approach.
I actually ended up making out with this 7 and getting 2 numbers, It was awesome because this night was a good reference experience to prove that these clubs have enough girls to approach for the whole night and really ingrain the abundance mindset.  When we were playing the game what I noticed is that there are actually always enough girls to approach and that we just make up excuses not to approach them. As soon as we would get to 3,2,1 who's ever turn it was would just approach the nearest girl even if she was with a guy or way hot or whatever, and this was very eye-opening as I approached way more hot girls than I usually do and realize once again that just going in many times with nothing to say is AWESOME.   

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2010, 08:00:59 PM »
Friday November 26,2009

I have been going out a lot lately and getting good results from it, not to talk too much about the specifics but a few concepts that come to mind (many from The Blueprint) that may help you with your own game, that are defiantly helping me with mine.
First and by far the most important in my opinion is the open, because if you fail to open you will not be able to get anywhere, as I'm sure many of us have experienced time and again. And many times this happens after a great night out because we NOW think that we are beyond that stage, and we can just get to the rest of the game now WRONG!  Having this kind of mindset many times is a sure way to kill your state and get you stuck in your own head. 

The solution go out with a NEWBIE mind set every night , HIT your warm ups accept the first few approaches as being awkward, MAYBE even a little on the creepy side, and keep taking right action by approaching more and more till you find the right girl ( if you keep going one will inevitably like you).  I can tell you that many times when you are not doing good after the first few sets your natural tendency is to think thoughts like " I'm ok I've been doing well no need to approach more tonight", or "I'll just take it easy",  I have come to see this as my ego interfering and not wanting me to hit STATE, and be in a higher more resourceful state of being.

The ego does this because it doesn't trust YOU it believes that it is the best thing for you and is resisting letting your best self come out because it BELIVES that you can be hurt by something that someone else says to you which is not true at ALL. I now have began to recognize this and instead of fighting it to just keep moving on and taking right action and approaching more, but not resisting the state that I am in or wishing that I was in STATE, because this also kills your state.
 
 Basically if I could sum it all up it's like your brain knows what to do and the more approaches you have and the more into state you get the farther you will get, it is a bigger than logical concept but one that I am really starting to see works.  You have to keep pushing till you get out of your head then you have more resources at your command, you can't go in cold and expect to be a rock star right off the bat, you need to switch gears to be more in the flow of what's going on.  BASICALLY you need PERSISTANCE no matter what your night starts off like, or the circumstances.

Also if anyone is looking for wings to go out with in Phoneix/ Tempe/ Scottsdale area hit me up got a great crew now but always looking for more motivated guys to roll out with

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2011, 11:21:04 AM »
January 2, 2010
Wow what a year 2010 has been broke up with my 1.5 year girlfriend at the end of February and haven't looked back.  Since then I have banged 12 girls and done what would be the seemingly impossible to me more than doubling my best year, I have met some of the coolest mother fuckers off the forum who are now some of my best friends and pushed my comfort zone to the extreme, defiantly read at least 20 books on pickup/self development and had more personal growth than ever before. I look back at my break up now and am amazed at how sometimes the things that cause the most pain in your life can also lead to the most personal growth, I remember a time after the breakup where I literally felt like it was the end of the world. I can truly say that this year has been my best year and I am happier than I ever have been in my life, going from a guy who thought he would never get laid to a guy that twice banged 3 girls in a week has been insane.  And all this happened because of the commitment I have made to consistently go out, and this is just the beginning for me. 
Since this last week has been one of my best I will break down what has happened. 

Wednesday night -

 Went out to Junkie nothing too crazy but was going hard on girls, started out the night just talking to everyone and trying to get out of my own head, and by the end of the night was going in very DIRECT. Like "hey your cute", or "hey what's up I like your friend" to the friends, anything that right off the bat lets her know that I'm into her, and trying to get as physical as possible weither its dancing, holding hands, giving her the claw or just hugs.  This is what my game has evolved to over this year and it is having a MASSIVE effect on the girls that get attracted to me.

 So that night got a few numbers and just went home.  Polectrix came over after to talk a little game and watch Key's to the VIP haha, and just when I was about to call it a night at 4am because I had to work at 9am this girl that I had seen at Junkie that I made out with at martini ranch a few weeks ago, and kind of ignored the whole night texts and is like "will you come make love to me" so I text her back where and she calls me and gives me directions, so I go over there, it's like a 30 min drive and fuck her then leave within 20 mins it was super weird haha.

Thursday night -

I am like running on like 0 sleep 3 hours tops, but meet up at firehouse it is cold as balls Polectrix and Tweezer meet me there. We start to open I am like about to fall asleep but keep approaching knowing that I can push through it, probably approach like 5-10 girls pretty creepily then talk to this blond 7 with blue eyes super cute, Tweezer talks to her friend they start dancing, I pull her outside and talk out there for like 10 min's then her friend comes back out, and they go to the bathroom.   Meet her on the dance floor again in like 10 mins and we makeout then she leaves, BTW I am being like super direct with her this whole time. I call it a night shortly after, and head to Dennys.

NEW YEARS -

We all meet up at the Double Tree in Scottsdale for this new years eve thing, pay cover head in and start approaching the venue is pretty lame and not to packed but I try to make the best of it, and end up talking to 2 sets with husbands/boyfriends, then opening what would be one of the worst blowouts in a while, this girl is like "I'm not interested, go just go!" and she like keeps telling me to go.  After that I'm like this place sucks, but do everything I can to keep a positive attitude, we all end up getting into this VIP area and this girl comes up to me and is like I know you, she's like an 9 super hot and we get to talking and I'm like "can I make you my new year's girlfriend" and she's like ok. Then of course I tell her that I want my new year's kiss, and go in and we make out, shortly after she leaves and tells me she will meet me at firehouse later, and I snag her number, this is by far the hottest girl I have ever made out with.
 
We then head to firehouse and get right in because tweezer had a table with some friends, start approaching and it's hard to get back into it but at around 2 I meet this cutie 7 on the dance floor and tweezer pulls her friend in I spend 20 mins super direct with this girl and makeout with her tweezer does the same with his.  We all go to smash box for the after party and then go home at 5 what a night, all 3 of us end up with 2 make outs each and a bunch of numbers. 

Saturday-

go out with the same cast plus one we all get to junkie and I see this blond girl from the night before, and talk to her I was hitting on her hard the night before she's way cuter then I remember we dance for a little and then I tell her that I will see her later, go around and open a few more, meet this girl at the stairs and am like will you be my girlfriend, we talk for a min and then she drags me to the bar, we end up making out later hardcore and I get her # then leave, nothing to crazy but a good end to the week. total numbers for the week = 6 make outs and 1 lay, not a bad end to the year.

I'm posting all this not to brag but to show how far I've come and it is possible for anyone, I remember earlier this year going to Vegas in June, and thinking that if I could just get a make out the whole weekend that would be awesome, the things that I'm doing now were totally out of my reality. Within 6 months I have totally changed my perception and look on girls, and I've done that by meeting the right guys who are motivated to go out, and reading a lot of self help, and just always trying to make it a point to push my comfort zone.

I think something I am really starting to see is that if an interaction is not going somewhere at the Bar/Club its going nowhere and to push those interactions further because there is a huge chance that you will never see those girls again. Having the abundance mindset is really helping me with this, knowing that out of all the girls that I approach out I really see maybe 3% ever again, it's one thing to know something intellectually but seeing it for yourself really shows you the light.

I am always down to meet new guys who are motivated and want to go out more and get after it, so if you are in the Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale area and want to roll out PM me...PEACE   

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Re: FR March12/2010
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2011, 06:09:46 AM »
Good post, but you definitly downplayed how crazy its been haha. Of course I did the same thing but oh well...BTW I think one of those nights Tweezer was fingering a girl on the dance floor...good times...
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